Published July 21, 2007
Seeing as this was only release about 12 hours ago, I won't say anyting about it. But has anyone else finished? It took me 9-10 hours, and I LOVED IT!!!
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I think the book will be a lot better than the movie. Anyway, this book is amazing.
My old school had a speed read contest. I picked this book. Finished it in 1:30 hours. I used to enjoy it. But, now, when compared to other young adult books, it's pretty cliche. Teen trouble, defeat a bad guy/ bully, and get a girl.
I don't think it's worth reading anymore.
This book was the best!
I'm amazed at how all of the characters have dramatically changed and matured since the first HP book. It's kind of sad to see this series end, but it is one I will continue to re-read over and over. I must admit I'm sixteen and I cried...three times. What a great story, and hopefully the film adaptation can live up to it...but I doubt it. Darn you Hollywood! 
I'm reading it again before the movie comes out. I think it's better the second time reading it actually. But maybe that's because I'm so excited about going to see the movie at midnight
~peanut~
YAAAAAAA! I'MGOING TO SEE THE MOVIE THIS FRIDAY!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SWEAR, THAT QUOTE IS FROM THE NOVEL. ISN'T IT BAD????
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yws/2009/0 ... radio-show

And we performed the radio show! You can listen to it here!
Anakin is a whiney-pants.
Whats up with that Prokaryote?
Snoink: I like the villians you chose!!
LOL Prince Humperdink is just a really bad last name
Creative..
Spoiler
Okay!
So, when I was coming up with the Completely Evil Radio show, I really wanted to have a monologue contest between some of the more evil characters. So I picked Darth Vader, Prince Humperdink, and... you guessed it! Lord Voldemort. Anyway, I really wanted to come up with a cheesy monologue for Voldemort, because I think he is a whiney-pants. In fact, I am not sure how he could have forced anybody to do anything for him (as mentioned in the book) because he is a complete and utter whiney-pants. But I digress. I wanted to write a cheesy monologue for Voldemort, so I decided to look in the Deathy Hallows.
Now, I read the Deathly Hallows really fast because I wanted to see what happens.
SPOILER ALERT: HARRY LIVES.
Anyway, so I read it really fast to the point where I knew what happened and I didn't have to actually engage myself in the dialogue. I read it so fast that it was more like a cliff notes version, actually, lol. Anyway, I went to the ending, where he was actually talking with Harry Potter, figuring that I could use the general gist and make it ridiculous for my radio show.
I didn't have to...
I mean, this is what was written:
ETC., ETC., ETC. The monologue is much longer than this and has Voldemort's eyes glowing red, etc.
For several minutes, all I could do was stare at the story. And then total laughter ensued. It was so HILARIOUS.
I do like parts of it. The patronus doe was pretty cool. And Snape was definitely my favorite character... though I liked Narcissa too. But most of the deaths seemed either stupid or completely unnecessary. Take Hedwig. Harry is going away. Hedwig can fly. So... um... LET HEDWIG FLY AWAY FROM YOU. But no. Unnecessary death alert!
Also, some of the deaths that should have happened didn't. Let's be honest... as heartbreaking as it was for one of the Weasley twins to die in the Grand Epic Battle Which Was Somehow In Hogwarts For Some Unknown Reason Since Apparently Hogwarts Is The Center Of The Universe, it was kind of a stupid death. I would have much preferred that they simply disappeared after having their radio show. That would have been sooooo much more cooler since it would be typical of the actual deaths that happen with people who make revolutionary talk. And, while you're at it, make the entire Weasley family disappear (except for Ron). After all, Fred and George really made no secret that they were doing this, and Harry said that they were clearly distinguishable on the air. Plus, radio is kind of... well... for everyone. The other side could have totally listened to it. But NO. Heartbreaking and horrifying disappearance is Not Okay because it doesn't allow the Weasleys to be in the Grand Epic Battle.
I also thought it was kind of cool for Luna's dad to try to turn in Harry like that. It would have been awesome if he could have succeeded.
On another note, Bellatrix totally needs to get laid. Seriously? Come on, lady. He's not that hot.
Total turd.
Again ...

WONDERFUL BOOK. VERY WONDERFUL. VERY VERY WONDERFUL. I could rant forever. But I won't - I have homework to be getting on with ...
twiggers- OH MY GOD!!! The part where Ron saves Harry is my FAVOURITE part in ALL the books! (Besides A LOT in the seventh book:P)
I loved it! I cried when tonks, lupin, and george (or was it fred?) died. I loved the part where Harry's in the pond during december, and ron pulls him out, and was like, 'Are you a bloody idiot?' I was like, 'RON!!!!' and woke the whole house up at midnight *oops*. Had to be one of J.K. Rowling's best pieces, cuz I loved it, and I am aiming to be a critic/ writer. I liked the epilouge, too, and think they should have a 'Harry Potter: The Next Generation' sorta thing.
IgnisandGlacialis: If your crazy then I'm insane. Harry Potter is what I dream about at night. I wish SO badly that I could be Hermione or Ginny or ANYONE in the book! I just want to feel like I'm a bigger part of the story! I want to be a wizard and this book is SO real in my mind ! Plus, I want to go to Harry Potter world, but that's never going to happen! I wish that when I turn 16 someone will come to my door and be like "It's not like the movies, really when you turn 16 we tell you!"...I think I'd cry.
KILL ME NOW!!!
I cried. And I cried. And I cried. When Hedwig died. When Moody died. When Kreacher told his tale. When Dobby died. When Fred died. When Lupin and Tonks died. When Snape died. When Colin Creevey died. When Harry walked to his own death. When Hagrid carried him out of the forest and they all thought he was dead. When I closed the book. That is how emotionally attached I am to the characters and to the story.
That's how I felt when I finished. Like: you can't do that, it's not fair, what will I do without Harry Potter?
This is a spoiler because if you haven't read the book, it'll spoil everything.
Spoiler
Harry Potter changed my life.
I just can't express how brilliant this book was. Not a book. MY ENTIRE LIFE.
You probably all think I'm crazy now. Crazy and way too obsessed. But it's the truth of it: I will never get over the pure awesomeness and tragedy of this series.
HARRY POTTER RULES!!!
I adore this book! I bought it when I was in the Acores because I just couldn't wait to read it(even thought it was $$$) I cried SO much when Snape died. WAY too many people died and it was so tragic! I could barely read it at times due to the sadness it provoked in me
But overall amazing book! I think my favourite part is when Ron saves Harry in chapter 18 or 19..
really good book that one. can't say i cried at all but i did enjoy it. i'm not a fast reader so it probably took me more than twice what it took anyone else. definatly the best book and a good one to end the saga.
I watched a documentary on J.K Rowling, ('A Day In The Life Of J.K Rowling') and she said on there that she was confident that she'd done alright with the book, which she said she'd had written books and not felt like that. so it is a good book. but like everyone else, i won't spoil it by telling what happens in the end. you'll have to find out for yourselves.
It's absoloutely brilliant. This is my 7th time reading it and i can't get enough. I always end up crying when Krecher tells his tale, it just makes me so sad! I can't wait to see the next movie and compare to the book!
It became more frantic yes.
Is it me, or did Rowling's writting style change in this one? Could something be amiss, here?...
I'm not the sort of person who cries reading hp. My mum was annoyed at me cause I wouldn't let anyone else read it until I'd read it twice through. It didn't take long to read I literally sat and devoured it. I love the 19 years later bit and I can't wait for the film tocome out.
I loved that book. I've read it three times.
...I sincerely hope that you're joking... else you must have been living under a rock for the past ten years or so...
Huh? Harry Potter? What's that...?
I agree with Lil Dono-Hogwarts is the best thing about the Harry Potter series. I still liked the ending, though-all the loose ends were tied up nicely and I loved that Moaning Myrtle's bathroom was a room of requirement.
I really don't see why these books were such a hit. Honestly! There are sooooo many books that are better than this series, and yet the author is a billionaire.
Think about it. The characters are dull and lack depth, the villain is soooo evil and everyone except the 'great harry potter' (who has anger issues, just so the author can pretend she's created a incredibly flawed and yet still perfect character) is terrified of him.
The main characters in this book spend a good portion of it camped in the woods. Yeah. Exciting!
Even Dumbledore, who spent the last six books as a white-haired old mentor figure, has suddenly become a person.
Overall, I have to say I was not very impressed with this book. Still, I admit it was much better than the 4-6th books, which were just stupid.
To me, this book was NOT a Harry Potter book until they got to Hogwarts again. I understand that the last book had to be different and it was necessary for the characters to journey away from Hogwarts but I think it was a mistake to have them away for so long. Until "The Battle of Hogwarts" I thought it was utterly boring (camping in the woods...fuuun. Oh look! A sword!) but when they arrived back at Hogwarts, I got totally into it again.
I guess to me, you just have to have Hogwarts to be a Harry Potter book.
But man, the Battle of Hogwarts was awesome; I pictured the whole thing in my head which is something I never do.
The deaths were hard; I was not pleased with Fred, Lupin, or Tonks' deaths. It seems to me like Lupin and Tonks after all the crap they've been through should have gone on to live a happy life. And Fred is just Fred. You can't have "Fred and George" without Fred.
Snape's character, I don't think, was that complex, but it was perfect. I was (half) expecting Snape to be totally good inside and have protected Harry because of that, but later on you find out while Snape does have a heart, he is no hero. He just loved Lily.
...Dumbledore coming back was just...eh. I hated it when he died, but I loathed it when he came back. If he's gonna be dead, just stay dead.
I agree with OnCeUpOnAtIm3Xo and Stella Thomas. The ending was too...happy, which is funny because I always want the ending to be happy. The whole naming people after deciest character was just confusing. (Wait? How many kids did they have? I thought he was Ron's kid? Wait, wha?) I don't ship any pairings, but I didn't really like any of them in the epilogue. I really think it should have been left out.
Technically, we're talking about the book here, not the movie, so really the characters could pictured however the reader pictures them, not by how they look in the movie.
Second, relationships aren't based off of looks.
And Third, Ron and Hermione (no, I'm not a shipper of anything) follow the Opposites Attract road; they fit like puzzle pieces because what Ron lacks Hermione has to make up for and vise versa. Furthermore, arguing all the time doesn't exactly have to be "RAWR I HATE YOU" arguing, there's such thing as affectionate banter.
I have to say that I was never a big fan of the Harry Potter series but I became somewhat interested after watching the first movie on TV for lack of better things to do one day. I read the last book when it became available at the local library seeing as I have no job and no possible way of purchasing a book even if I wanted to. Funny because of the way I dress the librarians kept glaring at me and no doubt whispering to each other about me as I had sat there for a good half a day with my nose in that book. xD 'round here people don't usually stick around longer than a half hour so it was something new for them.
I absolutely love it to death and will more than likely read the whole series all over again just for fun. It made me cry and I usually don't cry at all over anything. Incredible is all I can say, purely incredible.
I LOVED this one. It was probably the best Harry Potter book by far! Though it was also the one where I cried the most. So many people died!
I really loved the book. I cried in several parts. The epilogue I found a tad too sickly sweet after reading about all the awful deaths. But I understand that this book was where she was always planning to go with the series, so I can't complain about the content (apart from the fact she made Ron a traitor, let's face it, I wasn't the only one who danced a jig when he came back).
And may I ask, am I the only person that's read these books that cares about the fate of Lavender Brown?
Someone should really continue on with the HP Universe. Well someone could write a story before the events of the 7 books (Maybe about the childhood of Dumbledore) or a continuation of the epilogue. I think it would be a hit like Star Wars Universe.
yes, i too have--- *coughs* nearly cried during some of the parts of the last Harry Potter book, but the sadest thing is my friend Dean still hasn't read number 7!
I didn't cry on the outside, because my best friend was reading over my shoulder. But I was sobbing quietly and she sort of heard me, so she came over and wanted to read what made me cry. Ha ha. She started crying too. She always thought that Harry Potter was stupid. But I forced her to read the first one and she's currently ordering the whole set! -sighs- She's borrowing mine at the moment and better not be ruining them either!
I thought it was/is a great book, but I don't feel it was the best way to end it. I can't think of a better way that it could have finished, but it's just one of those things---the whole series was so good, how do you end it? There's no way to end it perfectly, but I think Rowling did the best she could.
I'm a crybaby when it comes to books and movies. I started crying when Snape died and gave Harry his memories and didn't stop. Yeah, I kept crying all the way to the epilogue.
It was great.
I just have to post my two cents, even if its like 4 months after the book was released
I was completely against the theory of Harry being a horcrux, I 100% believed with every fiber of my being, that Harry wasn't a horcrux, and was of course proved wrong...
It sort of brings the whole Marauder era back again, doesn't it?
I absolutely enjoyed this book, I loved every step of the way! I started ready Harry Potter since I was 10 and grew up with him and the last book, truly made me proud xD I felt as if I was part of the fandom and part of the whole experience. Harry Potter has introduced me to the fantasy genre and it has definitely influenced me as a reader and a writer. I have wonderful memories of dressing up and camping out on three of the midnight releases and it's just phenomenal! HP is definitely my top favorite book/series and JK Rowling is an inspiration and a role model to all writers and children alike.
That being said, Deathly Hallows completely surpassed my expectations by defying all my expectations
I thought the book was going to have all these battles and such and Harry was going to have to go to all these neat places and learn so much magic from Aberforth or Snape or someone in order to find them, but it didn't. Harry was just same old Harry who only needed to cast Experlliarmus(sp?) xP
I also thought that Harry was going to die from the minute I opened the book and read that poem about death not being quite the end. So I was expecting it for a long time but then when Harry was actually about to die, I was crying so hard. I had /expected/ it yet I was crying so much and it was so suspenseful! The chapter, Kings Cross blew my mind away because Dumbledore came back, which I hadn't expected at all. I did correctly guess that the blue eye in the mirror was Aberforth's (1 pt for me, 600 pts for JK). I think I cried the most when Dobby died, it was so sad, Dobby was easily one of my favorite characters! Tonks and Lupin had been my favorites too, but I didn't cry for their deaths like I cried for Fred's. Actually, I was peeved that they didn't even get a death scene, especially as mugglecast puts it, when Hedwig got a death scene yet Lupin and Tonks "just weren't important enough to get one". I figured that it was a good thing that they died together though and I forgiven JKR when she cleverly mirrored the whole godfather thing (Sirius being Harry's godfather, Harry being Teddy's). Hermione was just /awesome/ in this book --it made me respect her so much more and of course Molly Weasley quickly moved up on my favorite characters list when she delivered my favorite line throughout the book xDD And killed Bellatrix. God, I hate that woman.
The best thing about Deathly Hallows though, was the whole Snape subplot, at least in my opinion. Snape has always been one of my favorite characters ever since "Snape's Worst Memory" chapter in OoTP and I had always known Snape was good even after HBP, though I had expected him to redeem himself/explain himself a lot earlier Deathly Hallows and was worried by the time that Snape fled out of Hogwarts and still appeared to be on Voldemort's side. I felt so sorry for him though, the way he had died. He's such a complex character! I was also against the theory of Snape loving Lily, for some reason I found it cheesy, but it makes complete sense now and I was so surprised at how much Lily's death affacted Snape even till this day and it was such a moving and heartwarming story.
The epilogue was...well I liked it, I'm not fond of it but I would prefer it to not having an epilogue at all. I liked Harry naming his children Lily, James, and...wait for it...Albus Severus
Anyway, after finishing the book, I dunno...I felt complete xD I felt like my thirst for HP has been satisfied /yet/ the fandom can still live on with all the new era of wizards. I've yet to find a decent fanfic though =P Let me know if anyone knows of a good one.
I absolutely loved Harry Potter 7. and i thought the last line was excellent as well. Harry's scar hadn't pained him in 19 years. All was well. I almost cried at the death of Fred. i thought Jo killed a bit too many of the good people though, it was just death after death after death.
I thought it was a smart move adding the 19 years later bit, because that would mean that there would be little if not no hope of a continuation, because you can't really carry on from 19years later you know.
that is rather rude. i liked the fact that she wasn't supermodely.
I liked it... but the ending was terrible. Especially the epilogue, either let our imagination picture what will happen, or don't leave us hanging like that! I hated how Voldemort died in one sentence, when the whole series was about everyone wanting him dead! I mean seriously, it kind of seemed like J.K. just wanted to get the series over with! It was a weak ending, and i really didn't like it for that! And then after voldemort died, they had a party,
kind of seems like one of my old stories... immaturely written - there was really no impact to Voldemort's death! I really think that J.K. could've done much, much better!

I know I sound like a complete a**hole but, I really didn't like the ending! I did love the rest though!!!!!!
Deathly Hallows rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Except for the [s]crappilogue[/s] epilogue. And the pairings, I hate Harry/Ginny.
poor Snape. I still like James/Lily though.
And Hedwig, Moody, Dobby, Lupin and Tonks. I cried when I read the parts where they died. [/spoiler]
The Prince's Tale was such a sad chapter...
[spoiler]I can't believe Fred died...
Hey! I didn't cry, but I seriously thought about it. When Harry walked into the forest..with his parents, Serious..and all of them..oh gosh...it's sad. But I kinda had a suspicion that Harry was the last Hocrux because..it just fitted him. It explained why he could feel Voldemort and stuff. Yeah.
The epolouge was good, but not good enough. I mean...I really didn't like how he renamed his children after his parents. And i cannot see Harry marrying Ginny! She is like sooooooo ugly in the movies! Anyway..Harry would be good with Hermiony, and she is too hot for Ron...Ron should just be single. Ron and Hermiony fought all the time.. I don't see a happy marrige in there.
Anyway..let's see. I really liked how Voldemort died. It fitted him. Harry never sent a Killing Curse, but just blocked the Killing Curse Voldemort sent out. This means Harry wouldn't kill anyone.
I was totally shocked when Fred died and when George lost an ear. But I nearly laughed my head off when George said, "I am holey." that was funny!!!!
Moody..hm..It fitted him that he was going to die, but then..omgosh...I think I did cry, or else I threw HP 7 across the room when I read that Hedwig had died. I mean, how can JK Rowling kill off Hedwig? She was the best charactor of the whole series!!!!! I mean, come on!
anyway, I would like her to make some more HP books.. but that is a dream that won't come true.
Hmm... as far as Luna goes, i think I read an interview by JKR where she said that Luna become a naturalist - studying strange magical animals. she didn't put it in the epilogue, but she said that's what she imagined Luna doing with her life.
and i LOVED the Ginny/Harry pair up! mostly b/c i didn't see it coming. yes, i suppose it was a little weird that it was like second-generation Lily/James, but still. I love Ginny. and she's good for Harry, b/c he's so serious and she's...not.
I think I cried a little when Snape and Fred died. I know I shed a few tears when Harry told his son Albus Severus that he was named after the bravest man he had ever met (Snape). Snape totally should have been Harry's father!
). Would really none of them decide to stay behind and fight for good? Surely they're not all rotten to the core, people are much more diverse than that. I did like how Lucius and Narcissa, at least, chose something greater.

Other than the "bravest man I ever met" part, I didn't really like the epilogue. Luna wasn't in it at all! I have to know what happened to her! She also didn't get enough page-time. I really thought she would be more important than she was, and Harry, Ron, and Hermione left/allowed her house to become a mess without a second thought! Oh! Some tears may have come up when Harry saw Luna's ceiling covered in their portraits.
Harry shouldn't have ended up with Ginny. It creeps me out that Harry went for someone who's so similar to his mom, at least look wise (although I think their personalities were pretty similar, too, but I can't remember). Stand them side-by-side and it's like Lily and James: the Next Generation! I think it would have been a lot more interesting if Harry went for a Slytherin. Or Luna. ;D
The Malfoys were a bit of a let down. Draco could have been so much more. The Slytherins in general were a disappointment, actually (except Snape
However, I was not disappointed at all with Snape. Well, maybe his death, because it's sad to see/read Snape die, but the memories and the fact that he is (as I shouted many times to my friends on gmail/chat) good were amazing! =D He made me so happy!! Why did he have to mess up his chances with Lily?! Why didn't Lily forgive him?! Why?! </3
The way Kreacher turned around was amazing, as well. I actually liked him this time, as apposed to being annoyed by him or just not liking him as I had been doing.
I don't know if I like Dumbledore as much as I once did, though. He seemed to manipulate Harry and Snape, and I don't like manipulators unless they're the crazy-evil sort.
So, overall it's a good book, the major faults being not enough Luna and Snape and having Ginny and Harry end up together.
I actually think the only time I cried was when Harry held the Snith to his mouth and said, "I am about to die." And right there I just broke down lol. I didn't even cry when Fred died, probably because I was expecting either Ginny or Hermione to die and so everyone else I was just like, "Oh, it's Dobby. That's so said, but at least GINNY'S STILL ALIVE!!" haha. Needless to say, Ginny is my favorite character.
I don't remember how many times I cried... but it was a lot.
I was given a pirated copy by a friend (bad, I know) then went out and bought it a few days later because I wanted to re-read it without staring at a computer screen and feeling my retnas burn.
I think I cracked the spine of the book twice, getting quite emotional. Seeing the memories of Snape was one of those really blubbery moments for me, as well as the meeting in the train station between Harry and Dumbledore near the end.
Man, that was some good stuff. I'm sure it was not what I was expecting, but it was quite well-written and happily one my favorite book list with, well, dozens of others...
Oh, FINALLY! I thought no one had posted about Harry, and I was just so shocked! Then I found it! I know this is months old and everything, but everyone at my school still rereads the book and I have to do it justice: the book is so perfect to me from cover to cover (made so because it has a few errors in it), and yes, the epilogue was a little tacked on, but I still loved it. The only sour note is that this is it. No more Harry, Ron, or Hermione.
All in all, a fantastic goodbye.
I did like it. Dono said that the deaths were random, but I didn't really think it was very random. I thought more people would die, but not a lot of people actually did. I mean, there's Snape, Fred, Tonks, Lupin, Moody, Dobby, and a couple of others, but really, that's not that much, considering what it could be.

I liked the some of the endings. I keep on thinking about, "I open at the close" part especially. When I read it, I kept on expecting Harry to be able to open it, and I was disappointed that he was not able to. But, towards the end when he finally did open it, it was very creepy, because then you know, "Holy crap, he's going to die." And it just makes it creepier still that he says, "I am about to die," and the ball opens up. That is creepy, but very good.
However, about that time, I knew that he wouldn't die. Is that bad? From reading her series, it is obvious that she loves the Chronicles of Narnia, and the ending parallels a scene from "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" where Aslan goes to die for Edmund's sake but, because of deep magic, this doesn't happen. It is fitting that, in a book where so much magic is involved, this is also the case.
I love the Malfoys. I was always hoping that Draco and Harry could come to terms with each other, and it pleased me that this was the case. I also love that Narcissa and Lucius loved their son that much, and that love they had helped Voldemort's power crumple in the end. And I think it is funny that they are the only Slytherin family left at Hogwarts by the ending, so that in a way, Draco is left as the heir of Slytherin!
I LOVE SNAPE. I always figured that he wasn't an evil character, even with the end, and I guessed that he loved Lily as well from the sixth book, but I loved having this confirmed. I loved that his patronus was a doe, even after all that time, because it both represents Lily as someone who is gentle, and it shows a connection to James as well (the female counterpart of the stag) so that, in a way, his love reaches past the childhood memories that James and he had together. And it's just so awesome. I was sad (but not surprised) when he died, but I think the fact that he gave his memories to Harry is wonderful and I love seeing his change.
I love Kreacher! I never really cared about him much, but the fact that he can love is amazing and the fact that he learned to love again -- even a blood traitor like Harry -- is awesome in itself. His loyalty and dedication was brought upon, not by the stupid activities of S.P.E.W. (though Hermione had a part to play in his loyalty) but by a recognition from Harry that even those he considered bad were not so.
And... I'll probably be here back again, but yeah. It was good.
Even though I didn't like the epilogue.
It was fabulous. I enjoyed every page of the last book and I cried for the deaths of Snape, Fred, Tonks and Lupin. I thought that the story should keep on going about Harry's children, but JKR said that there wouldn't be any prequel for the HP series.
She left the story like, hanging mid-air, because of the epilougue, yeah.
And I am going to read and re-read that book.
What was the last line again?
I loved it. It scared me, however, that when compared the book was three times bigger than the first.
the whole epilougue was terrible. I read one of the pages and didnt like it, a week later and i did finish reading it. The last line. Disgustingly bad. J.K is suppose to be a very talented author but that last line has made me rethink my opinion on her. She could have spent a few hours thinking about it, couldn't she?
I have to agree that I wasn't fond of the epilogue. It wasn't just the last line, it was everything. The names of the children, the relationships between the children and the general happy theme.
[spoiler]Well, I don't know about you, but I think 'All was well' is a lot better than '...only those whom he loved could see the lightning scar', which was going to be the last line originally.[/spoiler]
She can make another few million out of an encyclopaedia though lol.
It was an overkill version of "and they all lived happily ever after." Maybe I'm just an ambiguous ending type person, who knows. I just thought she could have done a lot better as far as endings go.
And the loose ends should have been tied in the books...but, she's the writer, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much...
JC - Shes making an encyclopedia that will answer any loose ends....
The last line was tacky. I hated it. Although as for the epilogue I fail to see how it didn't end the series nicely.
I stayed up all night reading it (It's seven in the morning, just finished), and by golly.
That was one crazy night...lol
Although, I despised...sorry, let me reword that...loathed, absolutely hated the epiloge. The book would have been so much better without that entire thing. It was pointless, and left me angry and JK for not letting me finish the book in that dazed state of wow. Grrr to her. Brillience should not be tested. Argish.
Books should not end with that last line...it's cheesy beyond forgiveness.
But other than that. YAY!
-JC
(There'd better not be a followup...I'm not even kidding. If she so much as considers it...lol)
Yeah, I loved iot too.
although i didn't like the epilogue I think it was way better without it. it was funny but well, it kinda spoils the mood.
I loved Snape. really he is one brilliant character./ also disappointed at not finding more abot Jams's parents and more bot Sirius' past.
the deaths were heart breaking specially the second death .('cept the last one of course)
[spoiler]Yeah, and I think Ron's ability to open the chamber showed a lot more about Slytherin's view of himself. He designed the chamber so that only his descendants (all Parseltongues) could open it. But clearly, the method isn't as infallible as he thought it would be, because Ron, who is obviously not Slytherin's heir, could do it. That would've really pissed off Slytherin and Voldy.
Regarding the whole James/Lily/Snape thing...I definitely agree with Dreami. Since Harry has only ever seen his teenage father in Snape's memories, the view is going to be a little distorted. The memories belong to Snape, so they're not going to be impartial. They're Snape's memories, from Snape's point of view. I'm sure if he had looked into Sirius's or Remus's memories he would've seen a completely different James.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Actually, Ron had been shown to be a lot cleverer in this book. He had also heard Harry mutter "Open" in Parseltongue before (Chamber of Secrets and Slytherin's locket). Imagine you heard someone speaking a Japanese word but you didn't speak the language -- you could imitate the word and still not speak it. I think that's basically what Ron did.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Apparently, Ron imitated the sounds that Harry used to open the chamber, but I wouldn't have thought it would be that easy, or Ron Weasley would have been able to remember the exact sounds Harry made (he's not that bright, is he?)[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Yeah, the way that they got into the chamber was a bit weird. I guess I just ignored it because there was so much else going on. But really, how could he have opened it without knowing parsletoungue?[/spoiler]
MM
I avoided the computer completely until I'd finished.
[spoiler]The theory is that the character who exhibited magic late in life is Dudley, just not in the literal sense.
There were a lot of things that we were supposed to find out in that book that we didn't, like the professions of Harry's parents, etc.
I thought that Ron getting into the chamber was pretty weird. Actually, there were a few things in that book that were weird.
Poor Lupin and Tonks, and they were the ones who weren't supposed to die, too...[/spoiler]
Urghh..
All the spoilers for the book that I couldn't ignore quick enough turned out to be true....
But you also can't judge a character on nothing. We know he grew up, but I'd really like to see -how- he grew up in his seventh year. There were many, many other people attending Hogwarts and she could've picked any one of them. I'm just curious as to what made James special.
(not really a spoiler since this was mentioned in HP5)
You guys have to remember, the only time we really see James is in Snape's Worst Memory. You can't judge their entire character on that small little moment.
I may just not be very observant, but I cannot remember/think which character was the one who, as Rowling said, performed magic when they don't usually/can't do so. Can anyone enlighten me?
I agree completely, Jack and Jiggity. Much as my masculine tendencies tell me otherwise, I must admit I nearly cried a few times. Although, trying not to give out any spoilers for those unfortunate few to not have read it yet (i just finished this evening, what with exams and all) I will have to say this. The VERY end (not the battle scene but after, before the epilogue) left something to be desired. You know, she usually has a nice, long wrap up easily, smoothly and seamlessly tying up all the loose ends from that book, and now, when there are more loose ends than ever to tie up, she just abruptly ends it with that epilogue. I'm not saying have 5 chapters wrapping up every possible question, but like, for some of the main events I would have liked a little more substance on, i.e. more convo with Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione and then maybe a funeral scene or something where the rest of the Order gets at least relatively tied up.
It just seemed a bit abrupt for me. But overall, I concur. Twas a brilliant book. I may have to re-read the entire series, now. haha. And, since the ending is really starting to bother me, I may have to try my hand at fanfiction, although I've never done one before.
[spoiler]Well, in OotP, after he sees Snape's worst memory, Harry asks Remus and Sirius about it, wondering how his father could've been such a jerk and why in the world Lily picked him, and they responded that he grew up in their seventh year when he started to date her.
Sure, James might've been an arrogant show-off, but Lily, who is clearly a perceptive character, knew that he was good at heart. It's possible that her good influence changed him. But she definitely knew that Snape was going the wrong way because of the people he'd made friends with. "You can judge a man by the company he keeps" and whatnot. She probably knew he was good at heart, too, but the people he surrounded himself with made her doubt his integrity.
And besides, couples are able to deal with certain faults; just look at Ron and Hermione. They'd bickered and fought and teased and disagreed for six years and ended up together anyway. It didn't matter that Hermione thought Ron was tactless or annoying or jealous, and it didn't matter that Ron thought Hermione was a show-off teacher's pet. They still ended up together, so why not Lily and James?[/spoiler]
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[/spoiler][spoiler]Perhaps it was a Harry/Hermione predicament - Lily could have thought of Snape as more of a brother, and loved him in that way. We know, of course that Snape didn't feel quite the same.[/spoiler]
I thought J.K.Rowling finished the series fantastically! Every bit of it was just amazing and i thought it was great. I got it on midnight on friday and had it finished by monday. (though i only read it for around twelve hours, i had work
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Everything is fantastic and the last chapter finishes it of nicely. I didn't enjoy book #6 but this brought HP back and i thought it was great. I cried in some places and thought it was really emotional!
[spoiler]Snape called Lily a Mudblood! That is why Lily didn't pick Snape.
She realised that he was too evil and one minded to understand her heritage even if he was half-blood.
I liked the way he died and it showed he did finally did see the error of his ways. I knew that Snape was good though and that he had always been loyal to Dumbledore (well, most of the time).
I can't believe that Dobby died! I cried. I thought it was good how Harry dug his grave and Ron finally said something good about house Elves. well Dooby R.I.P![/spoiler]
Saphira
Finished it!
[/spoiler]Got it day before yesterday at 9:30pm and finished it at 4:00am this morning. We're moving into a new house, so I can only really read when everyone's going to bed and we don't have to move stuff any more. the two days it took me to read it included eating, sleeping, transporting an African Grey ready to bite off fingers, loading up the moving truck, unloading the moving truck, and buying every day items like shower curtains.
Even though it took me two days (nights) to read it, I still felt like it ended too soon. I mean, Mom taught me to read when I was four, but didn't teach me to like reading until she shoved Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone down my eight/nine year old throat.
some scenes:
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^^^See chamber of secrets when Hermione tries to kill off the Devil's Snare.^^^
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GO MRS. WEASLEY!!!!! YEAH!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!
Yep. Best book by far. Need to re-read the series now and keep an eye on Snape. Man, I love that guy. Most interesting character from book 1, and his memories make me want to go back. I'll keep an especially close eye on him in book 6...
Really liked this book because of all the holocaust stuff in it. I just got done studying the holocaust, too. Man, it rocked.
*sigh* Well, at least it's not completely over.There's still the movies. I still haven't seen #5. Plan to soon, though.
See ya at the theaters!
~*Dreamer*~
[spoiler]Lupin would never be with Lily! He's too good for her! It's like Kel said, Rowling shows no good qualities in James, he's portrayed as arrogant and a bully...Lily should have given Snape another chance goddamn it, she just left him with heartbreak and misery and he loved her and it was so obvious!!! She is so clueless!!![/spoiler]
I guess we'll have to wait until she writes that encyclopedia of all her characters. That should probably clear these questions up.
MM
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[/spoiler][spoiler]But at the same time that doesn't say why she picks James. He has no redeeming qualities. He's a general jerk and stuck on himself. Why not pick Lupin? He was a nice guy. I don't understand how she picked James. I understand why she didn't pick Severus: he was hanging around with Death Eater wannabes. It's the whole James thing I'm wondering about.[/spoiler]
In response to:
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I think:
[spoiler]I see how James' potrayal makes it difficult to see how Lily would pass up such a devoted friend as Sev, but we do see, in the memories, that he already had some pretty serious dark leanings (note his choice of friends) which he didn't seem inclined to give up just for Lily's sake. Even I, a most ardent Snape fangirl if there ever was one, have to say that the beautiful Severus is probably best admired from a safe distance.[/spoiler]
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[/spoiler][spoiler]You're right. They never showed one reason why Lily had chosen James except maybe because he was a Gryffindor. Same House and all. Maybe he was the lesser of two evils? I think I would like for her to write about James, Lily, Peter, Sirius, Lupin and Snape's world next instead of moving ahead. Pull a Star Wars and do prequels.[/spoiler]
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[/spoiler][spoiler]I so agree! For one thing, I liked Fred and hated Percy from the start for his arrogance. I never thought about Percy dying for the sake of redemption, but that's a great reason too, along with the fact that probably everyone hates him![/spoiler]
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[spoiler]The epilogue was awesome! I wish it were slightly more informative, though, like you said...but it leaves more room for interpretation. But, unlike you, I wish I knew who Draco married...he's awesome, don't try denying it! But personally, I wish there was less information on family and more on, like you said, jobs.[/spoiler]
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[spoiler]I totally wish Lily had chosen Snape! I mean, there's no evidence except that James was an arrogant annoyance, a prankster, and Snape was all sweet and loved Lily forever, and he's so misunderstood!!! AGH!!! But the idea of Snape being Harry's father ruins the story...but poor Snape! I loved him!!![/spoiler]
Now, for you people out there who are part of this forum and haven't finished the book, you'll love it, I guarantee you!!! It seemed slow to me for a while, but I swear it gets better!!! Keep reading!!!
~Deoris
[spoiler]Some people do rather marry those they were together with in high school. I did. I started dating my husband when I was 13 years old. I'm 25 now and married to him. So you might want to rethink that Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione are improbable.
I think Hedwig's death was tactical. Keeping track of an owl for the entire length of a final book would have been tedious. I didn't cry because it was such a sudden death. When I thought about it later, I understood why she killed Hedwig off. It just had to be done to save the flow of the story.
I really enjoyed when Dudley stuck up for Harry. "Isn't he coming?" It shows that he really does have something reminiscent of a heart and brain and realized what Harry did for him in previous books. The fact that Petunia and Vernon were so shocked was great.
The death of Severus was expected. I only didn't expect him to die in that way. I expected him to do one last great service to Lily (which was the only reason he was protecting Harry, not so much a grudge against James) and die for Harry Potter in a dramatic way. But I guess since Severus was a quiet character, he died in a way that offered no glory. It fit him.
I never once questioned Severus' allegiance. Albus never once doubted him and neither did I. Why should I when Albus was right about everything else? But the scenes in both King's Cross and Severus' mind were gorgeous. I loved reading the motivations behind some of their actions. The fact that Severus held the curse in Albus' hand to keep it from killing him immediately was a great way to show his allegiance. And the fact that Albus was going to die in a year anyway led to the fact that Albus died in a glorified manner. It fit the Dumbledore robes, don't you think?
Some of the deaths were obligatory. Lupin had no need to die. But since he'd been depressed and regretful for a long, long time .. I knew he was toast once he became happy. The minute he was smiling and all that, I knew he was dead. And when Nymphadora showed up to fight with him .. yeah, she's dead, too.
I think Percy should have died instead of Fred. A last redeeming action to help save his family from the evil Death Eaters. It would have suited the pompous and arrogant Percy to die in that way instead of Fred dying. I think I cried at Fred's death the most.
Now all of the friends from James' days are dead. Sirius, Peter, Lupin, James, and Severus. Other than the ancient McGonagall, Harry has almost no way to find out what else his father might've done. But it doesn't seem so important anymore. But there's no more Moddy, Padfoot, Prongs and Wormtail.
I loved the epilogue. It could've been longer, explaining who was Headmaster at Hogwarts, maybe if Harry's eldest was on the Quidditch team. But they weren't necessary. I just want to know the gritty details of jobs and things like that. And I really couldn't care less about who Draco married. I can't stand him and never could.
Narcissa. What can I say about her! She redeemed herself. She could have turned Harry in to Voldemort as alive and thus really had him killed. But the little whispered conversation asking about Draco showed that she loved her son more than her loyalty to Voldemort. It gave her depth. Though Lucius and Draco can rot in hell.
Lily and Snape. The penseive moment was one of my favorites. It showed a great depth to Severus and it showed the very selfish reason he protected Harry. It wasn't really so much a grudge against James. It wasn't the fact that he wanted to do something good. He wanted to do it for Lily. The only reason he turned to the good side was because Voldemort got rid of Lily when Severus has begged him to leave her alone. If Voldemort had left Lily alive, she might have grown to love Severus. Or she might have hated him and Severus would have fallen into a deep depression and ... it could go on and on. Severus never did anything for glory. He never did anything because it was the right thing to do. It was all for Lily. That in and of itself raises Severus to a level of awe that surpasses Albus. The things we do for love.
I'm prattled on enough. The book was wonderful and by far my favorite.[/spoiler]
I feel exactly the same!!
[spoiler]I too know now who got the reprieve (check Mugglenet, as Mesh said), but now I want to know who were the unlucky ones...[/spoiler]
I really don't get those who think the epilogue was no good--I loved it! It had all the giggly-fun sort of feeling of a fanfic (not that all fics are fun, but you know what I mean--like you're seeing something special) as well as bearing her unmistakable talent!
Argh, I finished yesterday.
[spoiler]From the moment Fred died onwards I cried. it is the only HP book to reduce me to the state of crying where you are actually on the verge of hyperventilating. (Maybe that's just my PMT, I dunno........)
Then when she killed Lupin and Tonks!!!!!!!! Noooooooo
But Dobby....how could she?? I loved Dobby. *Starts to cry again*
The ending was a bit crap though. Too happily ever after. And the last line was rubbish. If she had kinda ended after chapter 36 it would have been a brilliant book. I suppose she had to put that in afterwards to make sure she wouldn't have to write any more HP. To end it for good...
I feel soo empty today. HP was always my break from all other books and now it's over.
And finally I would like to say a massive I TOLD YOU SO to all those who contradicted my original idea that Harry was a Horcrux. I stated it about 2 months ago somewhere in Fic discussion and tips and I was right!!![/spoiler]
Alainna
xxxxxx
[spoiler]XD Puscha, yeah. I realised that after I posted.
Smart, I be.
But I still loved it!
And I know who got the reprive -- check Mugglenet, they have it on the site. [/spoiler]
*cries*
I feel like I've lost a best friend.
[spoiler]ZOMG that was the best book ever! I didn't cry, but I just sat there staring at the page, reading the line about Fred dying over and over. Fred...Lupin...Tonks...I think Rowling did the think about Lupin and Tonks because she (a.) wanted to provide material for a sequel in which Teddy would be the hero like HP (unlikely lol) or (b.) to show that sadness can still happen in a world where the main source of evil has been destroyed. I don't know. I'm tired, and I'm just theorizing, but golly geez that book was good.
It's the first book (besides Gone with the Wind) that I almost cried on.
I want Dobby and Fred and Hedwig and Dumbledore and Snape and Tonks and Lupin and everyone back! I loved them like they were my own...
Ah well. Beautiful book!
And in the words of J.K. Rowling: All is well.[/spoiler]
That book rocked.
[spoiler]Does anyone have the desire to know which character got a reprieve? I have a feeling that Lupin and Tonks may have been the unlucky two to have their fates changed (of course I may be, and it is likely, that I'm wrong), but who was saved. At the moment I'm leaning towards Hagrid. Any other ideas?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]He was 19 at that point, so there wouldn't be any reason for him to be.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]But they weren't in the middle of fighting, and Ron and Hermione weren't lost, when Harry dived into the pensieve. It was the period of an hour which Voldy had given Harry to surrender himself. They were tending to the wounded in the Great Hall, and Ron and Hermione were there.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I'm pretty sure Victoire is Bill & Fleur's daughter- it would explain why she's their cousin, and her French name indicates who her parents are as well.
I completely agree, I mean- it seems too perfect. I'll have to re-read that part again to be sure, but that's definately a question I'd like JK to answer. If it were the fact that Harry was alive (versus the locket, cup, & diadem) it would have made killing Nagini so much easier.
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[spoiler]Yeah, I know, the whole not saying who Victoire's parents are bugged me so much!!! I never thought about the possibility of her parents being Bill and Fleur, but that would make sense...[/spoiler]
Cheers!
~Deoris
Nope, the 3rd one was DEFINITELY first released in hardback, and i have Philosophers Stone in hardback...which i've had since i was like 8 (but i dont actually know if its the first edition..)
[spoiler]Was Victoire Bill and Fleur's daughter? In the Epilogue, I really wanted to find out what they all worked as.....not so much if they had children and stuff. And about what happened after Voldemort's fall.
I thought it was cool that Neville became professor of Herbology though.
Im still confused about how Harry was "destroyed". I might have to re-read that part. [/spoiler]
My whole post is going to contain spoilers, so I'd better just put the alerts all right at the start....
[spoiler]Well JK Rowling said that there would be a death of a main character at the end of the book, everybody felt that meant either Harry, Ron or Hermione would die. However, people who are disappointed that none of them died were probably taken in by this expansion of the truth. Snape was a main character, and Voldemort was, effectively, a bigger character than both Ron and Hermione so his was the "main character death" at the end of the book.
I was disappointed that he died due to a rebound of his own curse... would have prefered Harry to have done the honours.
I really enjoyed the book, and felt that the epilogue was a bit "happy ever after" but that doesn't mean that it was bad! One problem I have with the books, though, is that all the witches and wizards always seem to spend the rest of their lives with their partner from school - and in real life that just doesn't happen.
I had 2 theories:-
1) Snape would turn out to be good. I had thought that he'd be the one to kill Voldemort, thus saving Harry. Although that never happened it was still proven to be correct... he was a good guy after all.
2) Harry, himself, would be a horcrux... I thought this due to the fact he and Voldemort were 'twined' and he could see into his mind. This proved to be correct. However, another reservation I have is... when the ring, the locket, the snake, the cup and the diadem were destroyed they were ruined beyond repair. So when Harry, the final horcrux was effectively "destroyed" - he returned intact moments later.[/spoiler]
To answer your question...
[spoiler]If my memory serves me right Andromeda was still alive, thus she probably, being the closest blood relative still alive, would have brought him up.
Gah, I loved Ted Tonks. New favorite HP characters. "That's my wife your screaming at."
And Lupin and Tonks, I cried. I have to read the part where Harry see's them dead a few times before I actually believed it. I love the part when Lupin comes to Shell cottage and asks Harry to be Teddy's godfather, and is talking about Teddy's hair changing and all. That was adorable.
Also, it took me two times to figure out who the hell Victoire was.
And Fred, that was sad.
Yeah, I don't think I'll get over all the deaths she put us through, not really. The one thing that bothered me was not knowing exactly how Lupin and Tonks died. Oh well.
Teddy Lupin being a pseudo-sex-god made me laugh.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Oy, but surely dear Teddy ended up living with his grandmother, Andromeda?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]As for the pensieve thing, I guess she thought it was the best way to pass on that crucial info without being infodumpy or boring...but I agree that there may have been a better time to do it, but I don't know...I still loved it though.
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[spoiler]I have to agree about the epiolgue, but I can see what it was necessary.
Ok, what confused me? Wasn't Harry named Teddy's godfather? Then why wasn't Teddy with the Potters? Unless I missed something (I just finished, and haven't re-checked anything yet...), WHAT? But goodness. Remus AND Tonks! *sniffle* I loved those two...
The whole bringing-half-his-family-back bit at the end before Voldy tried to kill him the first time was just weird. I mean, it made sense, but.. gah. That bugged me. [/spoiler]
It was without a doubt the best of the series, but not the easiest to read.
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Definately. So very... random.[/spoiler]
Loving the hidden messages ^_^ I'm the only Potter fan in the house and it's driving me crazy that I cant talk about it LOL.
It took me a full day to get over it LMAO. Oh, and I'm really glad Snape turned out to be a good guy ^_^
[spoiler]Fred's death was the one that upset me the most. The twins were my favourite characters because they were always so funny
Overall I loved the book, even if it felt a little...rushed in places. I refuse to read the epilogue again though. Eurgh. I hate it when authors do that. I would have preferred more about the aftermath of the final battle, as I could care less that Harry grows up to marry Ginny and blahblahblah. I shall pretend it ended at the final chapter >.<[/spoiler]
[spoiler] I agree about the escape from Gringotts. It was just plain odd. As for Harry being brave...yes, he most definitely is, but there is a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
And I dig Snape.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I think that the only clunky part to the book, and the bit that confused me the most, was when Harry went into the pensieve. Now bear with me on this; he's in the middle of a massive magical siege, he has very little time in which to find an object with which he could come closer to destroying Voldemort; meanwhile Ron and Hermoine are missing and people are dying. So what does he do? He dives into the penseive?! What the hell? Now the information he found within was of course crucial to the story--btw I've always loved Snape; he's my favourite character in the movies too--but it could have been told in a much beter way I thought.
Snape is by far the bravest, and (among the) most powerful, wizard in the series. He walked into Voldemorts camp and lied straight to his face, again and again and again he pitted his mind against the dark lords and came up trumps. He took the verbal onslaught from harry, sirius and co and it didnt change his course one iota. He disliked Harry in the extreme and yet fought and died to protect him. GO SNAPE!![/spoiler]
I LOVE SNAPE! *waves hand in air*
[spoiler]And, personally, I think Harry is very, very brave, especially for his age. To be frank: look at Sev when he was that young! I mean, yeah, he's probably braver than Potter NOW, but everything good Sev has done has been for love of Lily, with little consideration for anyone else. I'll admit Harry's arrogant and a bit of a glory-hog, but he had a genuinely good heart.[/spoiler]
What I meant by hardback, was that they were origionally put on sale in only hardback format.
I seem to remember the first three books being only softback when they were first released, and Goblet of Fire was the first to be released in hardback.
wellll...
I have all but the second book in hardback.
ALSO, its exactly the same length as Half Blood Prince, but the pages are a lot thinner. They are both 607 pages long. How weird.
[spoiler] Hedwigs death was most definitely the worst. I cried. I didnt really like the bit in Gringotts with the dragon. It was a bit...........weird. [/spoiler]
Well, that makes sense - sort of.
[spoiler]Oh, and I also loved the bit when Hermione is trying to persuade Harry to go to Lovegood's. Hermione: Maybe it's because Dumbledore wanted you to find out things for yourself. Ron: Yeah, that makes sense. Hermione (snappishly): No it doesn't! *giggles*[/spoiler]
KazSmurf - i read on JKR's webbie that it's because Dumbledore gets more and more graver through out the series. In PS, he is rather dandy.
[spoiler]Zabuza! It was something my friend said when he was confused. Plus he had a really big sword.[/spoiler]
Ooh, yay!
Although, now you mention the Hogwarts Song, it seems a trifle strange that it has never been mentioned at all since PS... just a thought!
LOL.
I think we should get our virtual selves together to sing the Hogwarts song!
[spoiler]Snape was braver.
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[spoiler]that is a great word! I have to say Harry is very brave, that bit when i says 'i am going to die'...that just shows how brave he is meant to be. Though Snape is braver xD[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Zabuza?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]What I did love - Hogwartians! Isn't that just the best name ever![/spoiler]
[spoiler]THEN STOP DOING THEM!!! i'm such a hypocrite...[/spoiler]
~Deoris
[spoiler] They are getting a little anoying, yes.[/spoiler]
~Pol
[spoiler]He was only in it for glory, not for love of the wizarding world!!! That's why he pushed everyone who wanted to help him away-- to have the glory for himself! He just enjoyed being famous too much, and that annoys me...can't stand people like that...[/spoiler]
Now these spoiler thingies are getting kinda annoying...
[spoiler]Somehow, I think walking kowingly to your own death is extremely brave. Voldemort may have made many mistakes, but that doesn't make Harry and less brave.[/spoiler]
I'm soo loving these hidden messages!
I think everyone is gonna start posting stuff with spiolers, now.
~Pol
[spoiler]The only reason Harry even lived through the books is because of Voldemort's million mistakes! He's not brave-- he's stupid and he should have died! That would've made me very happy
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Don'tcha just love these hidden messages?!
Because Snape doesn't treat people very nice.
[spoiler]He treats harry like that he did bcuz grudge against James Potter, that's what I think anyway. He just grew to care about the harry later on, at first he only look after Harry bcuz Dumbledore asked him too and because he's Lily Potter's Son.[/spoiler]
[spoiler] Rest in Peace, Lily, James, Mad-Eye, Hedwig, Fred, Dobby, Lupin, Tonks, and Dumbledore.[/spoiler]
~Pol
[spoiler]Yeah, but no one could really be Lily! POOR SNAPE I LOVE YOU!!![/spoiler]
I don't get it; why does practically no one love Snape? He's awesome! Sooo much better than Harry Potter! Harry's just lucky; Snape actually does stuff.
[spoiler]the reason why snape tells harry to look at him before he dies is because Harry has the eyes of Lily. So really, she was there with him...as close as...sooo sad.[/spoiler]
just thought i'd point out my revelation
[spoiler]Yeah, I know! If only Lily could've been with Snape when he died, he would've been so happy! But Harry was just a reminder that Lily chose James over him...which is depressing...so he died all depressed, killed by his master (sorta...it was really Nagini, though)...[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I too think that Snape's death was the saddest in the book. Along with Hedwig. They just met such tragic ends, and both died rather alone... oh no, I'm gonna make myself cry
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But "Prisoner of Azkaban" is a hardback. At least, the one I got, when it came out, was.
Are you people kidding me? That was sooo not the saddest death!

[spoiler]I felt so bad when Snape died...Mad-Eye's was waaay too sudden for me to feel anything and I didn't feel much about him...he was just, like there...but I hated that Lupin and Tonks died, now their son is a mini Harry Potter! AGH!!! And omg I feel so bad about Snape and Fred!!! I know it's weird to feel bad for Snape, but I actually really liked him!!! And Lupin was one of my favorite characters (along w/ Sirius), WHY?!?![/spoiler]
Okay, now that I'm done blathering (since none of my friends have gotten the book yet and I can't blather to them; we're at camp and they had pre-ordered theirs and...it's complicated...) I'll just say that although I loved the book it was sooo not my favorite! And what was up with that epilogue? RANDOM (although I really sorta liked it even though I'm not much for perfectly happy endings)!!!
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[spoiler]Of all the deaths in the book, I think that Hedwigs is the one that upset me the most. Poor Hedwig.
As for being a hard movie to make: well, it's certainly not the longest. Actually, it's the shortest of all the hardback Harry Potter's (4, 5, 6 and 7). Book 5 is actually the longest of them all, and that has just been made into a movie.
Having said that, I didn't realise it was the shortest until I put it next to the rest of my collection. It 'feels' a lot longer, although I suspect that this is due to the rather epic scale of the story.
Pardon my ignorance....I seem to have so much of it these days....but what's going around with the hidden messages and spoiler warnings??
Kaz: first off, mad cool hidden message. Secondly, I know!! *sad*
I'm so unbelievably depressed! It's over! It brought me to the brink of 'I'm gonna cry soon' many times. I read it in about 2 and a half days, so I think I did pretty well as far as savouring is concerned.
[spoiler]I can't believe she killed Hedwig. And Dobby. Those were like the two saddest deaths in the whole book. And Lupin and Tonks. Oh, she's gonna get some hate-mail[/spoiler]
*sniff*
I pity the screenwriter who finds the Deathly Hallows tome in his hands. XD Hoo boy. I bet a lot of fans will murder him if he messes it up too badly.
As for movies, I really have no idea how they're going to deal with the chase scene, and Fiendfyre and everything. Oops. I'm sorry, did I just spoil? They're very general terms....xD
Took me about 18 hours. I think it's the best one of all 7. I'm looking forward to see this one and the half-blood prince in movie, i think deathly hollow and half-blood prince have the best plot of all 7.
Well, it was the last one..so obviously there was going to be a handful of deaths. I keep re-reading my favourite parts. It's so hard when you're the only person in the house who knows the end.
[spoiler]The beginning made my skin crawl though...poor woman! I simply bawled my eyes out at 'the prince's tale'...poor sev.[/spoiler]
Well, the end of an era.
Tj
Loved it! Loved it! *dances around* It is officially my favourite HP book!
I can't BELEIVE we're on the four page of discussion and no one has said anything about Neville being the most awesome person in existance. When I was reading about all the stuff he does, I was completely ready to go "My hero!" and swoon. Well. Maybe not swoon. But still! He's awesome.
[spoiler]This spoiler thing is awesome! Hehe! Secret messages! Yay!
Should I write a spoiler if I made a spoiler message? Nah. It only said it may contain them.[/spoiler]
But anyway. She killed a fair few people, but I reckon when you do battle with the evil lord of darkness and death who has seven or so lives, a giant killer snake, and an army of death eaters, dementors, and whatever else ... realistically there will be death. If the book ended and all the goodies made it, I don't think it would have passed as realistic enough.
[spoiler]To be honest, I think she just got addicted to killing off characters! Most of it was needless violence but I do reckon a certain amount was needed to give the impression of complete futility. I thought the death of a Weasley was really quite harsh and the newly-wed happy couple seemed almost sick.[/spoiler]
Ah well, thankfully it's all over and I don't need to be up until some unearthly hour rubbing my eyes and reading 'just one more' chapter.
DarkLight
Too true, DL; I definitely cried at that part. What a noble way to go, though! *sniffles*
Hidden [s]messages[/s] spoilers are awesome!
[spoiler]Awesome new tags! Such a shame about a certain free house-elf *sniffs*[/spoiler]
DarkLight
By the way, everyone can write spoilers in this topic as long as they use the new "spoiler" tag.
I think that when they make the movie that they'll have a lot to live up to. I mean seriously 700 some odd pages and all of them filled with something going on the movie's gonna have to be a really really really long one.
I just finish it a little while ago..actually last night at 1130 but still. That was a really funky ending. The kids kind of confused me who was who's I mean I got the kid who was named after [censored] but still the rest confused me. AND WHO WAS [censored] MARRIED TO?!?! THEY DON'T TELL!! ARGGGHH THATS SO FRUSTRATING ALL HE DOES IS NOD!!! Now that I got all that out.
I'm so depressed now. First Sirius went, he was my favorite, then [censored] left?!! Right after they had their freakin' baby!! Now that's sad.
It was absolutely breathtaking. I don't thing there's anything else to be said, but I do think that the epilogue was sort of a neccesity, to finally prove to the world that "YES, THIS IS THE LAST BOOK!"
MM
I can't wait to see it as a movie. It will be soooo cool. If anyone wants to talk about it, PM me! I want to talk to someone who has read it. Only me and dad like reading Harry Potter, and dad said he'll take a few more days before he's done, so I have to be very careful about what I say to him.
The Kings Cross bit was cool, but it did confuse me a bit. I'm so glad it was still funny. Maybe not as much humor as the others, but still plenty.
I totally agree, Pol.
(wow, how often do big sisters say that to little brothers?)
For me, I will be fine if she does or doesn't go on, though I don't see how, if she loves these characters as much as her writing leads me to beleive, she'll be able to entirely let them go.
In Memoriam.
I finished reading it too, unfortunately, I'm the first one in my house to read it fully.
I liked the King Cross section, I also liked the whole Hogwarts section.
In general though, the book was good. It did what every good final book of a series should do: wrap up all the loose ends.
I wish I could say more.
I envy those who took less than 12 hours to read the book. It took me a day and a half (including quick naps, going to church, and eating) to finish, and it was absolutely the greatest finish to a series.
Some of my predections were right, but I'll have to check my wording on the bet I made for a couple of events that were technically right, but, in the end, were false.
While some people didn't like the King's Cross portion, I absolutely LOVED it! Maybe it's because it's contantly a movie when I read something, but I just had this beautiful imagry running through my mind.
Curse the spoiler ban.... soon as it's lifted, I need someone to talk to!
The Harry Potter series is what sparked my intrest. Before I was a stupid jock in the 6th grade, barely able to read. I decided, "Eh, why not." And started reading. I was mezmerized. After I read the books that were out my intrests branched elswhere.
I loved fantisy ever since J.K. Rolwing introduced it to me. I've read so many other things I've liked better but I always remianed faithful to the books, never forgeting what they did for me.
I thought I could never let go of Harry Potter. I couldn't believe it was over. After reading the end I smiled. Then read the epilouge. I was grinning before I could realize it. It-was-perfect. It gave me a sense of adventure.
That thier adventuares were not yet over. Harry Potter lived on inside his children, as he'll live on through me as well. I will never forget you.
~Pol
Just finished it about 15 minutes ago, and it was brilliant (as everyone else has said). I'm really glad she chose to write an epilogue because I always wonder what happens next after the book ends.
Now I'm just sad it's all over. I've been waiting for the seventh book ever since I read the first back in 2000. But, I can't imagine her not writing another book that is at least set in the HP universe. Books about Dumbledore at Hogwarts, or James & Lily at Hogwarts, or whatever else would be awesome.
The bird's thoughts on the epilogue (which she loved):
1) In my opinion, at least, it was the only way I would be able to let go of the series. No matter how good my imagination, if she hadn't SHOWN us that [censored] live "happily ever after," as it were, there would always have been that doubt, that room for interpretation.
2) For those who say it resembles a fanfic: I definitely think JKR molded it that way on purpose, by way of...sort of "taking control" of that particular section of the Harry Potter cannon. There is now an "official" version of events post-books, and since it's IN THE BOOK (published, therefore copyrighted), I think she'll have a lot more control in that area. Feel free to correct me on this, though.
3) I just freaking loved it. Especially [censored]'s middle name. And what Harry said about that particular namesake.
I think that Jo is telling us to write fanfic. There's no other reason for that epilogue.
I agree, Sureal. This really WAS the perfect culmination of the series, and I loved it!
The one thing I didn't like? The epilogue. I've read so many things like it in fanfictions that I was wondering if the novel was having an identity crisis. And, I mean, could those names have been any more predictable? Sure the two weren't--but every fanfic'er who writes about the next generation uses those other names. *rolls eyes*
She should've left it end at the last chapter.
I feel like the six previous books were almost like an introduction to this one. All the different books have introduced various different parts of the Harry Potter mythology, and then The Deathly Hallows drew them all together, utilised them, and tied them neatly together.
Anyways, definately the best book in the series, in my opinion. A great read, and anyone seeking out spoliers, rather than reading it, are depriving themselves of a great book.
3 and 7.
My favs are 3 and 7. 3 cause of the dementors and Sirious and stuff. 7 because of the mega perfect ending. Who else thinks the ending is perfect. I'm not sure if I should say it if other people haven't read it but...
~Pol
I like it, but it's not the best of the HP books...I don't know why, but thr 6th and 7th really didn't do that much for me...maybe I was just too overly-depressed about Sirius' death...

Okay people...what are your favorites of the books? Personally, I love the 3rd and 5th...although Sirius' death still depressed me...
OMG I HATE THE HERMIONE/RON PAIRING!!! WHY DID SHE HAVE TO DO THAT?!?! But I love Lupin and Tonks, they're so perfect
Aberforth! Vote Aberforth!
He's so much cooler than Dumby. Didn't have any qualms about talking, either.
The fact that Mrs. Weasley swore at all is mindbogling and aw inspiring. Realy... I LOVED the ending!
What was everybodies fav. part?
YEAH Molly! (did anybody NOT laugh at that?)
Still think the spoiler policy should have been made clear on this thread, but then what do I know? I'm just an inept mod ... *Cough*
Darklight, I have the same feelings! While crying at the end of the book, I was partly crying because any literary achievement I'll make will be negilgible compared to DH. *Sigh*
The Weasleys were certainly the highlight of the book. One-liners like the shampoo, and Mrs Weasley's battle cry were definitely giggle-worthy moments!
For me there were more tears than giggles, though. While the atmosphere was balanced and everything, it was too centric on the trio, when a huge part of the series has been about the surrounding cast. I missed the people more than Hogwarts ...
I thought the ending was too abrupt! It should never end XD

I cried at the part when (someone) is sobbing over (someone else)'s body and he can't do anything about it! so sad, but all turns out dandy in the end.
'with the whole wide world of ear-related humour before you, you go for holey?'
I can see why Jo said it was her favourite book
Yeah, I don't think it really epologue-ized [to mulitlate and create new words] enough.
Sumi, I LOVE your sig, and I LOVE that line! The whole Weasley family just makes me laugh so so much.
It was brilliant
I cred several times, specially once they left the Malfoys mansion and you-know-what happened
But it was definitely a great read and i wish it wasn't over.
Quote:
"So what's the plan, Harry?" said George.
"There isn't one" said Harry.
"Just going to make it up as we go along, are we? My favourite kind," said Fred.
Mrs. Weasley is the bomb. I'm so glad she got a chance to shine at the end of the book.

It kind of reminded me of Eowyn in LotR: "I am no man."
Woo hoo! Go Mrs. Weasley! Get some!
I loved the comedy throughout it, though. XD :points at signature:
I must say, that was an excellent book. Rowling has really put the cherry on top of an already sweet cake. I had had some minor speculation conversations with friends but didn't have many theories so I was slightly surprised by some things. However, I was always certain Snape and Dumbledore had made that certain arrangement.
. However, with the Potter era (though not hysteria) come to an end, I hope there's another author who will conujure up an equally exquisite tale (I'm getting lingual here).
The mood of the book was excellent throughtout, I couldn't help but feel the horrible state the three were in and the dark mood throughout the book.
Too bad it's all over though
I agree with AmeliaOliver about nothing being a real surprise. I guessed Snape's allegiance (though not the other bit about him. So fanfic.), and I guessed that something of the sort would happen with Draco and Peter.
I thought that the finale was lame. I mean, it could have been a lot worse, but it was lame, especially since it came from the amazingly talented J.K.R.
I got it delivered by Amazon, and dragged it out for as long as I could, but I finished it by six. I hadn't gotten enough sleep for days, so by four, I was more or less having fits of hysterics. I practically sobbed with laughter at "STAY AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER, BITCH". I was rather deranged, I must say...
Absolutely fantastic. Pure brilliance. It either puts you off writing, when you see that sort of talent, or redoubles your efforts. Wow.
Parts were sad, parts were funny, parts were dark indeed, but it still manages to keep that fantastic excitement of witchcraft and wizardry going. I saw the film for the fifth book yesterday, and now I really want to see what they do with the last two!
Loved it all the way through.
DarkLight
The spoiler policy has been made clear. Not our fault you missed it. Anyway, no spoilers allowed as yet.
Probably be lifted in a couple of days.
What's the spoiler policy on here? Should have been made clear, methinks ...
Anyway, I'm wondering what the motives are of the people who don't read them and yet want to know who dies. Personally I refuse to tell them, as they usually want to go spoil it for fans.
The book: W.O.W. 10 hours and every one of those was astonishing. But of a slow pace at the beginning, but it all paid off at the end. And WHAT a payoff! So many tiny things drawn together. Snape was a big surprise. Some elements of Harry's final parts were ... somewhat lame, but I didn't really care since I was getting answers. The scene in 'Kings Cross' was definitely the weakest for me (too much expo) but adding the big action stuff after that worked really well.
Was anyone disappointed with the epilogue? I expected it to be more detailed about the lives of the survivors than that. I still have questions!
Favourite moment:
Mrs Weasley: 'STAY AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER, BITCH!' I died laughing at that point. I just remembered we're not supposed to swear here ... but JK's allowed to do it, I'm sure I'll be forgiven. :p
I think I successfully managed to avoid spoilers there ...
I think I like this book the best in the series. It took me a full 12 hours to finish it, mostly because I have a bad habit of pausing mid paragraph to think on tangents for, say, half hours at a time.

I must say, there was nothing in this last book that really caught me off guard. Every possible oh-my-goodness moment had already been thought through in my head. I'm not saying that I was sure what would happen, but nothing truly surprised me.
Arg! No one else has put up spoilers yet, and I don't want to be the first. But I want to talk about it
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
BUT!
We're going to the city tomorrow! That means Harry Potter, here I come! 
I can read it yet! DARN IT!
YES! I LOVE living in the middle of the woods!
YES! I LOVE being able leave my laptop at the library while I go across the street and still have my laptop when I return.
YES! I DO love my life at the moment in this town with a population of 1500 people!
But NO! I DO NOT like having to drive two-three hours to the nearest bookstore! If it were up to me, I'd be waiting in line to get the book at midnight. I can't drive yet. And my parents don't want to drive two-three hours to get a book they don't care about in the middle of the night.
Yes, I am a die hard fan, and no, I don't have the book yet. You can only imagine how I feel right now.
I asked myself the same question a while ago, when I got online for a brief period early this morning.
I figured it a sort of sanity break.
I thought it was brilliant. Rowling is an incredible storyteller; I would kill to be able to weave a story as masterfully as her.
It took me somewhere between seven and eight hours. I'm not sure, because I read some at the store where I bought it, then took it home and read till I fell asleep, then woke up and read during breakfast and until I was forced to go to Tae Kwon Do. I was in a bad mood the whole time I was in class, because I all I wanted to do was read all day. But when I got home I was happy again, and finished in three hours. Then I called my dad and told him the ending since he's never going to read them. It was fun sharing it with him.
I didn't cry (though I did in the sixth book), but I laughed and gasped and groaned and other such things that made me an excellent audience member. XD
I've just about finished it. I love it so far. Ahhhh, I can hear your thoughts now....
'If you haven't finished it, why the hell are you on the stupid internet!! FINISH THE DAMNED BOOK!!!!!'
I've been asking myself the same question....
Took me about 7-8 hours all told. I have to say it's the best in the series - I loved it in all but one thing, which I knew was coming but still made me cry >.< Intense is definitely the word
It took me twelve hours... mostly because I fell asleep for at least three and made frequent soda/cookie breaks.
I thought it was brilliant. I cried, I'll admit.
I would have liked to see more of [character name], but he's really not important and I guess I'm just living in a fantasy. Sigh. =/
Really, Jacko? Gods, this is driving me crazy! I couldn't go last night to get it since I have such a long day today (this is by break). So! tonight I will be reading like a mad woman (mader?) to finish before it can be spoiled for me.
Can't wait, with all the positive reviews from everyone!
I didn't like the 5th and 6th books crazily; they were good but nothing special like what Rowling had conjured in PoA, for example. However, this was a massive return to form.
I finished it in....eight or nine hours. Give or take snack breaks.
It was intense. It was beautiful. It was heartbreaking. It made me cry. It's not a fairy tale. It was brilliant.
I cried so many times.
I've never been a huge Harry Potter fan, but all the hype about this book makes me want to know what happens in it (but not read it) so someone should tell me who all dies
I'm actually looking for spoilers for this one. I got burned out on Harry Potter some time after the fifth book came out, and I'm reading two other books, I don't want to go through another giant one. Heh
This one was better though, methinks.
ITS BRILLIANT. I cried...like FOUR TIMES. especially the first death....lol..seriously. I WANNA READ IT AGAIN. I cant determine whether i liked it better than the half blood prince. Both were amazing.
It is extroadinarily well done; quite brilliant really. I agree, Jack, there were several moments that almost had me in tears as well lol.
I agree
best of the lot i think.
I read it in five hours and 34 minutes. I'm sad and i timed myself.
Well...anyway, not going to spoil it. But be warned, it's very intense.
Tj
Jules, that's just ridiculous.
Anyway, I just finished it in 6 hours. Tried to pace myself so I could savour it. There's some horrible sad moments, I came close to crying (HP makes me emotional, yes) at several moments.
I have to say it's brilliant.
Pm me who dies, i have the book but not the patience to read and find out, so i might skip to the last page. Like i always do