Brisingr (Eragon 3) Spoiler

I agree with Firestar. Although, I don't like how the elves were done. (It's the "we don't believe in any god" part. Mostly.)

Nya my friend I don't believe that there is a God either just god's with a simple g that are lower than an almighty perfect being. So the elves respecting that is a kind of surprise to me. Which means i like the elves a lot.

Hate to say it but here it comes::::::::::::::::..........




I TOLD YOU SO MWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Was that for me or Kyte??

neither. it was for every inheritance hater...

Firestar wrote:I just read Brisingr and I have to say it was much better than the first and second ones. Eragon is also less of a jerk.

So I wrote that MWAHAHAHHAH thing but it seemed that I was not the first one to write.

ooooh

Lord Anzius wrote:neither. it was for every inheritance hater...

Firestar wrote:I just read Brisingr and I have to say it was much better than the first and second ones. Eragon is also less of a jerk.

So I wrote that MWAHAHAHHAH thing but it seemed that I was not the first one to write.

He said "better". Not "good"

No, I liked it. I actually enjoyed all of them. I just thought that Paolini's writing has improved a great deal since Eragon.

Traitor.

I personally see it as the other extreme. He's trying to imitate Tolkien but it's not working. Does he understand why Tolkien was praised at all? I see a lot of purple prose with horrible formal dialogue. Arya gave a 'wan smile'. Wan means faded. I doubt you can give a faded smile.

I also learnt of something new: I spoke to my friend (a fan) and we had heated debates on the matter. I brought on how kings are not elected, but rather, follow a bloodline. He failed by saying: "But in Star Wars, the Queen of Naboo was elected!"

Hmm. Yeah.

Sure, and I bet you never derive anything from any other book. "Eragon" just has more similarities to other books than usual.

Firestar wrote:Sure, and I bet you never derive anything from any other book. "Eragon" just has more similarities to other books than usual.

I have heard that argument countless times, and it always gets me into an agro. The Star Wars similarities? Exact. Not similar, not a bit excessive, exact. The Tolkien plagiarism? So blindingly obvious. An inventor does not say everything's been invented. Originality is there, and it needs to be taken.

Blink wrote:

Firestar wrote:Sure, and I bet you never derive anything from any other book. "Eragon" just has more similarities to other books than usual.

I have heard that argument countless times, and it always gets me into an agro. The Star Wars similarities? Exact. Not similar, not a bit excessive, exact. The Tolkien plagiarism? So blindingly obvious. An inventor does not say everything's been invented. Originality is there, and it needs to be taken.

You can't say that the Star wars similarities are "exact". The similarities are there, but they aren't exact. And please give me a paragraph on the "Tolkien plagiarism". I have an idea of what your talking about, but let's just say I don't, here's your chance to convince the world.

Ooh! Pick me!

http://www.anti-shurtugal.com/tolkien.htm

I don't have time to answer the whole thing, so I'll just answer these two paragraphs.

His Dwarves, however, start out as Tolkien stereotypes and end as Tolkien
stereotypes. They are short,(isn't that something that defines a dwarf? People even use sentences like: The city dwarfed my home town, and, I was dwarfed by the size of him.) gruff, have an impressive underground city, and wield axes. (BTW did you know that they actually lived mostly above ground before Galbitorix. *gasp* They usually only lived underground when they were mining.)Oh, and they are generally viewed as the less intellectual race. (It depends on who's asking)They have a longstanding feud with the Elves, for no apparent reason.(They don't like them because they became friends with dragons. They can tolerate humans because they didn't come up with that idea, even though they joined the pact later.)

There is no unique spin, no stamp to claim them as his own creation. (Did you even read all of the books?)He took the ideas without altering them, and without giving a reason why. Why
do the Elves and Dwarves not like each other? (^Look above^ that's the main reason.) Because They Just Do-that's the archetype. He took the cultures without the depth. (Really, did you read all the books?) Why do the Elves have to leave the land? Because They Just Do. Because it provides the author with great angst opportunities, but the angst is contrived and artificial.Don't you hear the most interesting things?

The fact that there are dwarves in it is clichéd. Full stop.

(BTW did you know that they actually lived mostly above ground before Galbitorix. *gasp* They usually only lived underground when they were mining.)

You mean like Tolkien's?

(It depends on who's asking)

All races in Eragon say the same. Elves are racist, too.

They have a longstanding feud with the Elves, for no apparent reason.

Nonetheless, the point stands. He can give whatever reason but it's there.

Elves are good magic, bow, tall, pointy ears and came from the sea, also must go back there one time. Thy are immortal too.

Star Wars set in middle-earth. There's more too. That article is very true