The Price of a Soul [Chapter 5.2]

Last Line(s): “...So it doesn't affect you?” she guessed, awkwardly standing beside him as he sat down in one of the pews. She already knew the answer to that question. Issac was just as calm here as he always was. Even knowing that he was secretly a demon trapped in a robot's body, she couldn't shake the image of him sitting among the church's weekly visitors.

“Even if it did, this body would likely protect me from it,” he said. He gave a small, almost bitter smile as he sat down on the nearest bench. “Being forced into this body does have a few benefits.”

After a moment of hesitation, Quinn sat down next to him.

“I thought holy items were supposed to harm demons,” she said.

Issac shook his head and faced the front of the church. “Demons were around since before Christianity,” he explained. Quinn tried to follow his gaze, but her eyes fell back down to her lap. “People seek explanations for what frightens them. When those explanations still make them afraid, they find comfort in hollow traditions. I can't say for certain if God truly does exist in the sense that humanity believes in, but he has nothing to do with demonkind.”

Quinn studied the floor.

It was just as worn as the rest of the church was. A few of the floorboards looked like they needed to be replaced; others had reminders of the regular churchgoers in the form of fading footprints. “Then why did we come here?”

Issac let out a quiet sigh that ended in static.

“Because churches worships other things than God.”

Quinn finally looked where Issac was staring.

There was a mural painted on the wall behind the alter. It reminded her of the paintings in the Sistine Chapel. Whoever had painted it must have devoted a significant amount of time to it; Quinn kept noticing new details about it the longer that she looked. But while the focus of the painting was on Jesus and his disciples, what Issac focused on the most was the angels off in the corner of the piece. When Quinn squinted, she could see that angels had been depicted with the same care as everything else: she could see each feather, could see how the light hit their glowing skin, and could see exactly how many angels – three – were looking over the painting's subjects.

She suddenly remembered the conversation they had on the bus.

“You said there were three place that demons came from,” she realized, glancing over at him, “but you only described two.”

Issac nodded.

“Most demons come from Earth or Hell,” he admitted.

A heavy feeling formed in Quinn's gut. Issac hadn't confirmed her guess yet, but she knew that solemn look on his face. In the back of her mind, she could even recall a passage from the Bible about angels that had followed Lucifer out of Heaven. It wasn't just religion that had taught her that, either. In almost every story about demons that she had ever seen or heard, demons were fallen angels. And while she knew that there must have been a good reason for them fall in the first place, she couldn't help but feel a strange sense of kinship. She knew what it was like to leave an unforgiving place that was a home in the name alone.

“The other demons are fallen angels, aren't they?”

It was a moment before Issac replied.

“They are,” he confirmed. He let out another sigh, looking more tired than he ever had. Quinn had been so focused on the mystery of where they were going and their arrival at the church that she hadn't realized he had brought Adam's file with them. It was only when he rested the packet against the pew in front of them that Quinn realized it hadn't been left in the hotel room. “Angels serve no god. They serve themselves. If one of them does something the current ruling class disapproves of, they are expelled from Heaven. Their former angelic family and friends scorn them for rebelling, and everyone else in the supernatural community avoids them.”

The pit deepened.

“Why would do they do that?” Quinn asked. She pretended she didn't already know the answer as she gripped the edge of the seat. She tried to ignore the dark thought emerging from the corners of her mind as she stared at Adam's smiling face. “Why would what the angels decided influence non-angels?”

There was another tense pause.

“Humans aren't the only ones who fear the unknown,” Issac finally said.

“Do the angels say what they did wrong?” Quinn questioned, an almost hopeful tone to her voice.

Issac shook his head so slightly that Quinn wasn't sure if it intentional or just a little robotic twitch. “They never share. It's not unheard of for rumors to start surrounding the fallen angels. Even other demons usually despise them for whatever crimes they supposedly committed.” He looked around the church, one hand hovering over the bible in the pocket of the pew before them. “That was why I wanted to come here. I could have explained it in our room, but I...wanted you to see what they lost.”

Quinn looked at the church again.

She saw the empty pews and imagined them filled. In the vision playing out before her, she could see a sea of people flipping through hymnals and singing hymns that praised the Lord above – and the angels that served them. Even away from Heaven, angels must have felt a sense of comfort peering into churches like this one. It must have felt good to know that a dedicated group of people loved them just for existing.

But fallen angels had lost that.

They didn't have anyone. They didn't have other angels. They didn't have the backing of religion. They didn't even have other demons. She knew she should have felt angry about that. She wanted to feel angry. But all she felt was sad at the thought of everything that they had lost. Even if Heaven hadn't always felt like a home to them, it must have been better than being completely turned away. If she hadn't met Issac when she ran away from home three years ago, she was sure she would have felt just like them.

Her gaze fell to Adam's photo.

“...He was one of them, wasn't he?” she guessed. “A fallen angel?”

Issac handed the file to her. It felt heavy in her hands, like she was holding one of the church's bibles instead of a few sheets of printer paper.

“That was what Nolan assumed.”

She hesitantly started leafing through the packet again. “Is that why his history was so vague, and why he was so desperate for hours?”

“It probably was,” Issac agreed. “The older members of the supernatural community tend to fabricate their histories, but they usually have other people they can rely on for their stories. If Adam fell recently, he would only have himself. He would need any money that he could get.”

The paper crinkled in her hands. She blinked away the tears threatening to form at the very corners of her eyes, but her vision was still a little blurry. Being sad for Adam wasn't going to help him. She had to figure out why he was missing, and if he was d...

She didn't want to complete the sentence.

“Would a hunter care if he had been an angel?”

She watched as Issac reached into the pocket of his black dress pants. A moment later, he withdrew a small packet of tissues. It was her turn to shake her head when he held them out to her. She did appreciate the thought, even though she knew he was partially doing it because he felt guilty about making her upset. 

He slipped the tissues away. “I doubt they would be aware of the distinction. Hunters usually see us as one collective group. If anything, they would likely be more concerned with him being a demon.”

“So a hunter could be responsible,” she concluded, “but it could also be someone who figured out that Adam was from Heaven.”

Issac nodded.

Quinn wasn't sure which explanation she wanted to be true more.

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Valkyria
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Alright! Two more chapters to go before chapter seven!

Issac shook his head and faced the front of the church. “Demons were around since before Christianity,” he explained. Quinn tried to follow his gaze, but her eyes fell back down to her lap. “People seek explanations for what frightens them. When those explanations still make them afraid, they find comfort in hollow traditions. I can't say for certain if God truly does exist in the sense that humanity believes in, but he has nothing to do with demonkind.”

This is a nice subversion from "canon" Christianity as Tuckster said. It reminded me of how people in the Medieval Ages had sleep paralysis, and they thought demons sat on their chest.

“The other demons are fallen angels, aren't they?”


Fallen angels is an interesting concept, and I love your take on it!

But fallen angels had lost that.


Quinn feels just like them, doesn't she?

This was a great read!

Thanks for the review! Quinn definitely relates to them. And I'm glad you liked my twist - I blame Good Omens for making me so in love with it, even though I already had the idea before I read the book/watched the show.

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Atticus
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Atticus wrote a review · Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:16 pm

Hi Mage! I'm not sure if I've ever left you a review before, but I had to cross mystery off my Checklist Challenge and your work caught my eye. Let's jump into some impressions and critiques!

It was just as worn as the rest of the church was. A few of the floorboards looked like they needed to be replaced; others had reminders of the regular churchgoers in the form of fading footprints.

Throwing out a quick suggestion here (apologies in advance if this is off-base): in some churches, it's a practice for worshippers to walk on their knees from their pews to the alter to show their penance. This is largely in Catholic churches (as far as I know), so definitely not a part of all church traditions, but mentioning the knee-shaped dents or worn spots on the floor in that pattern could be a way for you to transition into a critique of the church's worshipping patterns.

“Angels serve no god. They serve themselves. If one of them does something the current ruling class disapproves of, they are expelled from Heaven.
Aha, the deviation from "canon" religious lore.

Towards the end, the introduction of the idea of hunters confused me slightly. That's partly my fault for jumping into your novel 5 chapters in, but a bit more explanation of who hunters are and why they're relevant wouldn't hurt. Of course, there's no need for a long-winded explanation, but a few more lines about them might be a good choice for you.

The best suggestion I have for you after two read-throughs is this: if you want to show a sense of community, visiting a church service may be more powerful than visiting an empty church. While I enjoy the vibes of an empty church, reflecting on the God that these churchgoers worship and the faults of religion, it doesn't seem like it does what you want it to in this setting.

Your chapter was a little dialogue-heavy, and while that's understandable considering that the main purpose was for this conversation to occur. I tend to be a bit jaded against chapters that are heavy on the dialogue, but injecting a little bit more action might pace up your story a bit. You did a relatively good job of creating balance between descriptive passages, brief movements, and parts of the conversation, but even a little more movement could be helpful. For example, as Quinn is processing this, she could pace around the church a bit. This would also give you an opportunity for some more description of the church, and maybe some description of the church family.

Overall, this was an interesting idea, and I could see there's some raw honesty and personal experience speaking from behind the narration. The church setting provided a great backdrop for this intense conversation, so overall, you made many good choices as a writer that created an intriguing and successful story. I hope some of the suggestions I've offered you were helpful, and if you have any questions please feel free to reach out!

Thank you for the review - especially when you haven't read the other chapters! I know how daunting of a task that can be. :)

Throwing out a quick suggestion here (apologies in advance if this is off-base): in some churches, it's a practice for worshippers to walk on their knees from their pews to the alter to show their penance. This is largely in Catholic churches (as far as I know), so definitely not a part of all church traditions, but mentioning the knee-shaped dents or worn spots on the floor in that pattern could be a way for you to transition into a critique of the church's worshipping patterns.


That's definitely not off-base! I went to a Protestant church years ago, so it's good knowing how Catholic churches function. I also have to sit down and decide what denomination Quinn was when she went to church in the past & what kind of church this one is, but that's something I haven't had a chance to think about yet. If I go the Catholic route, I'll definitely include that!

Towards the end, the introduction of the idea of hunters confused me slightly. That's partly my fault for jumping into your novel 5 chapters in, but a bit more explanation of who hunters are and why they're relevant wouldn't hurt. Of course, there's no need for a long-winded explanation, but a few more lines about them might be a good choice for you.


That actually came up a few chapters ago, but it's good to know for when I edit this chapter! Basically, they're trying to solve a series of disappearances of supernatural people, and they think hunters might be at fault. Quinn's trying to decide if hunters would care about fallen angels, or if they would just see them as regular old demons. She's trying to figure out the motive. :)

The best suggestion I have for you after two read-throughs is this: if you want to show a sense of community, visiting a church service may be more powerful than visiting an empty church. While I enjoy the vibes of an empty church, reflecting on the God that these churchgoers worship and the faults of religion, it doesn't seem like it does what you want it to in this setting.


The church is actually going to be a setting that shows up again, so I'll definitely have Quinn got to a church service at some point!

Your chapter was a little dialogue-heavy, and while that's understandable considering that the main purpose was for this conversation to occur. I tend to be a bit jaded against chapters that are heavy on the dialogue, but injecting a little bit more action might pace up your story a bit. You did a relatively good job of creating balance between descriptive passages, brief movements, and parts of the conversation, but even a little more movement could be helpful. For example, as Quinn is processing this, she could pace around the church a bit. This would also give you an opportunity for some more description of the church, and maybe some description of the church family.


Thank you for the suggestion! I always struggle with writing dialogue-heavy chapters - especially when I have to include information in them - so it's great knowing what I can do to make it more enjoyable to read.

Everything you said makes sense, but I'll definitely reach out if I have any questions!

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5.2 - here we go! I told you'd I'd get here eventually ;) sorry it took so long!

“I thought holy items were supposed to harm demons,” she said.

I'd be interested to see if Belle was harmed by holy items - or garlic xD

“People seek explanations for what frightens them. When those explanations still make them afraid, they find comfort in hollow traditions. I can't say for certain if God truly does exist in the sense that humanity believes in, but he has nothing to do with demonkind.”

I like the point he's trying to make here, but I feel it could be a little bit clearer. I think the first two sentences need to be more separate from the last one. Otherwise it reads like humans were aware of demons and so created Christianity to make them less afraid. Unless that is the point you were going for? In which case I still think it needs to be more clear xD

Issac let out a quiet sigh that ended in static.

Great description!

“The other demons are fallen angels, aren't they?”

“Angels serve no god. They serve themselves. If one of them does something the current ruling class disapproves of, they are expelled from Heaven. Their former angelic family and friends scorn them for rebelling, and everyone else in the supernatural community avoids them.”

Oooh, very Good Omens/Lucifer (so basically Neil Gaiman haha).


She blinked away the tears threatening to form at the very corners of her eyes, but her vision was still a little blurry. Being sad for Adam wasn't going to help him. She had to figure out why he was missing, and if he was d...

I'm glad she doesn't completely break down. You've just had quite an emotional section so actually I think her crying would have probably been too much here.

Overall I liked the idea of demons being fallen angels! I do, however, think that the pace may need to pick up in the next few sections. We've had a lot of information and character development recently which has been wonderful :) but I'm ready for more to happen, haha!

Also, this means I'm officially up to date! So please tag me in the next bit as I'm ready for you <3

Icy

Thank you for your review!

I'd be interested to see if Belle was harmed by holy items - or garlic xD


I am too. :P

Bell's actually my first vampire character, so I really need to sit down and figure out what exactly the rules are when it comes to how vampires work. I'm leaning towards a no on the holy, but a yes to the garlic. :P

I like the point he's trying to make here, but I feel it could be a little bit clearer. I think the first two sentences need to be more separate from the last one. Otherwise it reads like humans were aware of demons and so created Christianity to make them less afraid. Unless that is the point you were going for? In which case I still think it needs to be more clear xD


It wasn't entirely, but I'll definitely tidy that up in the second draft!

Oooh, very Good Omens/Lucifer (so basically Neil Gaiman haha).


The hilarious thing is that I don't think I really had gotten into either one of them when I first came up with that lore, but it's totally inspired by that now.

(Especially GO!)

Overall I liked the idea of demons being fallen angels! I do, however, think that the pace may need to pick up in the next few sections. We've had a lot of information and character development recently which has been wonderful :) but I'm ready for more to happen, haha!


Me too! I did some plotting for the next few chapters, and things will hopefully be picking up then. <3

I'll definitely tag you when I update this again!

I'll be ready <3

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Okay, so this chapter had a lot of exposition.

'She knew what it was like to leave an unforgiving place that was a home in the name alone.' - I just really like that line and wanted to point it out.

Have you read the Penryn and the End of Days trilogy by Susan Ee? This concept of fallen angels just really reminded me of that. And if you haven't, I really recommend it. It's amazing!

I did find it a little over dramatic that Quinn cried. Like, I get that she was seeing similarities between her and Adam. But she doesn't even know the guy? And also, yeah, running away from home because your parents are shit is sad, but it's been 3 years... if she cries every time she thinks about them it can start to be a drag and quite draining to read. And will also make more emotional scenes less impacting.

I do like the descriptions of Adam and I'm kinda hoping he's still alive (and possible the third character you were talking about) because he sounds interesting.

Okay, so this chapter had a lot of exposition.


Yeah. ^^"

I wanted to break it up a little bit, but it's not really possible to - especially since the idea of fallen angels becoming demons is the backbone for the entire trilogy I have planned.

Have you read the Penryn and the End of Days trilogy by Susan Ee? This concept of fallen angels just really reminded me of that. And if you haven't, I really recommend it. It's amazing!


I haven't! I'll definitely need to check it out sometime. :)

This story was originally loosely inspired by The Bartimaeus Trilogy by Jonathon Stroud and the Supernatural TV show, but I definitely think Good Omens and its many fanfictions/pieces of fanart are to blame for me realizing just how sad fallen angels can be. If you haven't seen the show or read the book, I bet you would really like it. And the fanfiction is absolutely incredible when it comes to filling in all of those scenes you don't get to see in the original story.

I did find it a little over dramatic that Quinn cried. Like, I get that she was seeing similarities between her and Adam. But she doesn't even know the guy? And also, yeah, running away from home because your parents are shit is sad, but it's been 3 years... if she cries every time she thinks about them it can start to be a drag and quite draining to read. And will also make more emotional scenes less impacting.


I definitely understand what you mean! It's a problem I had back with one of my older novels I posted here on YWS, too. I'm hoping that this scene is the last of the big tearjerker ones for a bit, but it's one where I feel like it's important for Quinn to get emotional. Fallen angels are something that are going to become very personal to her in the distant future which is a minor spoiler I guess >> so I wanted her to have some of that empathy kicking around right now.

Also I got emotional while writing it so I thought it would be good to pass those emotions off to her.

But I'll definitely be wary about that in future scenes! I'll also try to space out the scenes like this one and the last chapter so it's not two back-to-back chapters of Quinn getting upset in the second draft. :)

I have watched Good Omens! My second named is Crowley so anything with the demon Crowley in, I am there! (Yes I am also a massive fan of Supernatural XD)

Crowley is the best. :)



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