White Minds (R)

by Lorrilrakest.

Published September 27, 2009

These are the first few sentences of my novel - possibly a prologue.

It's going to be pretty taboo.

“I'm seeing things that aren't there.”

“I'm having murderous feelings.”

“I can't control my anger.”

“There's a fire. Always a fire.”

“I can't help it. I want to have sex with you, mum.”

“Stop it, get out of my head!”

“I killed him. I killed my best friend.”

“Stop it!”

“I said that I supported child molestation.”

“I didn't mean it.”

“Get out!”

“This is mad!”

“Stop it!”

“I'll kill you!”

“Out!”

“I don't like it!”

“Out!”

“It's killing me!”

“Stop it!”

“Stop!”

What do you think - it's experimental - the whole novel possibly won't be like this.

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kaitlyn
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kaitlyn wrote a review Review · Dec 27, 2022

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening/Night(whichever one it is in your part of the world),

Hi! I'm here to leave a quick review!!

Anyway let's get right to it,

Hmm this is certainly a very unique way of going about starting a novel. I can say with confidence that I have never seen anything quite like this. This reminds me of perhaps some sort of confusing and yet at the same time connected set of voices that would echo around a black screen in a movie perhaps. In story form it still creates a similar and very interesting effect.

I think its a powerful mixture that you've got here, its a rather strong combination of dialogue mixing along with what seems almost like intrusive thoughts for this person that all seem to be trying to eat away at them and cause some sort of reaction. It definitely manages to produce enough questions that us readers end up wondering quite a bit about what's to come here. Its all a rather powerful mix of various really powerful topics there.

Overall, this is a really powerful little echo. I would personally recommend a bit more context be added to this so that something this powerful ends up a little more grounded in something so it doesn't seem completely just in a blank void but besides that you've got the base for something quite interesting here.

Aaaaand that's it for this one.

As always remember to take what you think was helpful and forget the rest.

Stay Safe
Harry

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LowKey
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LowKey commented Comment · Oct 3, 2009

I need to capture the essence of confusion, but not to stir people away because they don't understand it.


^^ Tricky balance, lol. But a very excellent hook if done well. "Hook" being the key word. Perhaps give them something sold, something they can imagine or relate to or understand, and then launch into the confusion. But make sure the reader has an idea, even a vague one, of what's going on throughout it. Give them something they can understand before confusing them, so that way they have something to build off of. Otherwise, they're not confused, they're trying to find out what's going on. If they don't know what's going on, or what's supposed to be going on, (basically, that this isn't normal) they have nothing to build off of to be confused about.

Does that make any sense?

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Lorrilrakest.
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Lorrilrakest. commented Comment · Oct 2, 2009

Okay, im starting to understand that people are confused :]

I need to capture the essence of confusion, but not to stir people away because they don't understand it.
Hmm.

And the focus wasn't at all on just child molestation, if you get me?

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fading-dream commented Comment · Oct 2, 2009

I hope the whole novel isn't like this. I know my review was the harshest thing I have ever written, but I was very appalled. Maybe I saw it wrong, but the whole story, in my mind, was about one person debating child molestation (maybe with a split personality disorder). I just don't think there was enough detail put in for anyone to really understand this.

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LowKey
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LowKey commented Comment · Oct 2, 2009

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^^ Talking heads

And I'm not saying add just description, though that's a big part of it. Just write it like you plan to write the rest of the novel. Here's what I mean:

'I'm seeing things that aren't there,' I thought to myself, 'I'm having murderous feelings. I can't control my anger.' I'm going mad. I must be. A hammer bounded from one side of my skull to the next, trying to break free. Groaning, I clutched at my head, trying to make it stop, begging it to stop. Please, please, stop.

I killed him.

No, I didn't, I couldn't. Why would I do that? I didn't mean to-- I didn't know--

I killed him.

I fire lit through my head, making every thought thrum and spark. I began to rock on my heels, fingers digging into my scalp. The fire, always the fire...


I wasn't sure what you meant by the fire, if it was literal or figurative, decided to go with figurative in the end. Just my own interpretation, of course, what I imagined to be happening. In any case, if you write it like that, add something more than the dialogue/thoughts, then it'll be smoother, easier to read, and a much more effective hook. And, if I was totally off in my interpretation of it, well, if you write it like that, then you can show what's really going on and make sure the readers get it straight. :)

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Lorrilrakest.
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Lorrilrakest. commented Comment · Oct 2, 2009

Well ... er ... thanks for the help then, fading-dream :/
A great review.

I clearly stated that the whole story would not be like that, and so I hope you weren't under any impression otherwise. It is going to be an "actual story" - it is the first half-page - don't have such a negative view. I accept people won't like it, but to blatantly slate my skills and my confidence without any real creative criticism is unfair.

And as for the inappropiate nature, well that shouldn't be a problem - i said it was taboo, and only should be read by "open-minded, mature readers". Many other stories have been considered inappropiate and done well.

I apologise if I seem too defensive, but I just don't like so forceful reviews which don't actually help further improve my writing.

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fading-dream
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fading-dream wrote a review Review · Oct 1, 2009

I absolutely hated this. I'm sorry, the dialog is absolutely terrible. Plus, I think the whole child molestation thing is completely inappropriate, no matter what age you are. I also didn't understand who was talking ever. There is no story here. I'm sorry, but I would never read this. The first three lines have potential to be a poem, but the rest goes downhill. I'm sorry that this is very harsh, but I have never disliked anything so much before. Maybe write an actually story instead of the first dialog that comes to your head.

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Lorrilrakest.
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Lorrilrakest. commented Comment · Oct 1, 2009

I'm glad people kind of like it now.
I definitely appreciate your help rlw, I can understand how much better that makes it.

And as for your question LoveLess, you may have to wait and see ;)

LovelessSummer wrote a review Review · Oct 1, 2009

Hi, Miss Summer Night at your service.
I really liked this, espically the part about fucking his mom, that really made me laugh. I do, however, have one question. Is this one person speaking? If so then I understand, if not, I'm hella confused. Well, thats all. I really liked this. Message me if there is more. Thanks, bye! :elephant: :elephant:

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rlw92 wrote a review Review · Oct 1, 2009

I reckon this has potential, as some of the short lines shocked me. IN a good way of course :D
I reckon you should string all these lines together into a full piece, if i was to attempt this a short example would be:
"Why?" I ask the wide eyed monster staring back at me from beyond the mirror. Why? I think. Why do I have these thoughts? These murderous, sick thoughts of feeling the cold steel of the kitchen knife plunging into some human being? Possibly an innocent cunt walking down my street.
My mother calls to me from the living room "Are you alright in there Rhys?"
I open my mouth to reply and an image of me fucking my own mother pops casually into my head as i reply.

Yeh try and string it together like that, makes it a more fulfilling read.

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Auteur
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Auteur commented Comment · Oct 1, 2009

It's pretty random. But who knows, some times random ideas become the best stories.

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Lorrilrakest.
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Lorrilrakest. commented Comment · Sep 30, 2009

Right, also, do you think just writing plain descriptive text and stuff will catch the attention as well?

I want to do something different, that's all, really.

And also, can you send me that link to the talking heads thing?
It would be interesting to read, anyhow.

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Lorrilrakest.
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Lorrilrakest. commented Comment · Sep 28, 2009

Thanks for the feedback :]
And i'm glad you like it, Jessie :]

Do you think it can still "grab your attention" without references to child molestation and stuff - it's actually got nothing to do with the story - i just 'plonked' it in so you grasp the idea that they're doing things out of their control.
So yeah, i will probably get rid of it.

Thanks again :]

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LowKey
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LowKey wrote a review Review · Sep 28, 2009

My first instinct was to link you to a talking heads article in the knowledge base ^^ but then I saw that it's the same person, just different thoughts. It's still confusing though. Add description between the thoughts. Maybe put them in italics and/or single quotes ( ' not " ) to show that they arethoughts, not someone actually talking. Unless someone really is talking. Then it's fine as is.

It hurt my eyes, the way it was done. I read the first few lines of thoughts/dialogue, then scrolled down to the bottom, looking for some solid text to explain what was going on. Only after I saw that there wasn't any solid blocks (and that it wasn't really that long at all) did I read it through. This really needs some solid blocks of description early on, or it's not a good beginning. Maybe have two, three at the most lines of thoughts, then launch into a paragraph about what's going on in this character's mind, what it's like, etc. Then a couple more lines, then more paragraph(s). And that brings me to the second point.

The lines of thoughts do eventually lead the reader to see something of what the situation is, but it takes too long, and it too rocky a ride to get there. Maybe instead of having the thoughts direct, as they are now, have them be indirect. Open it with a brief paragraph, what's going one with this character's mind, how s/he is reacting/dealing with it. Maybe first person would work best there. Then have the thoughts, but have them in the middle of the paragraph, some how distinguishing them from the rest of the text. I'd use italics, but that's me. Make use of description (have I said that enough yet? XD) because as it is, there's absolutely none of it, which is bad.

You can roll with what you have, but this right here would need to be treated as a very vague skeleton. You'd need to re-work it and add a lot more to it for it to be a solid hook, even if it is a prologue. Maybe make it a scene that occurs later in the book. I think that's what you're doing here, writing something that happens later, maybe even after the book is ended, and if so, great! You just need to add to it. You said the whole book won't be like this, which is good. Write the prologue like you will/would write the rest of the book, and it'll be solid. As is... it's not good for minds.

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Snoink
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Snoink commented Comment · Sep 28, 2009

I want something dark, yet sets the style of the universe my novel has.


What sort of style does your universe have? :)

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LexiconDevil wrote a review Review · Sep 28, 2009

Honestly, my first impression is that it annoys me. Maybe if I saw how it worked with how the rest of the story would look I can judge it better, but right now yeah, it's just a bit long. If it was shorter it might annoy me less.

I don't know if it really gets my attention or not, because odds are, if this DOES catch my attention, I may lose it while reading what the actual story is, especially if it's vastly different from the beginning.

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jessie2009 wrote a review Review · Sep 28, 2009

I like it. It's like really cool. You don't normally see things like this. I think you should keep it but add more description. Like explain a little in the beigining then do that. I think it could work=].

Well, hope you keep writing.

-Jessie.

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Lorrilrakest.
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Lorrilrakest. commented Comment · Sep 28, 2009

That's cool :]

I've tried loads of different beginnings and none of them really set the scene for what I wanted.

I want something dark, yet sets the style of the universe my novel has.

I don't know, I suppose i'm in the dilemma of getting a bit ahead of myself - writing stuff the audience won't understand - but I do because I know the rest of it :P

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Snoink wrote a review Review · Sep 28, 2009

If I saw this beginning, I would put it down and not want to read it. It's simply too confusing and doesn't have enough conflict in it. It's like, you use shock words and phrases to achieve some sort of effect, but there's really no purpose to it, if that makes sense.

Try another beginning... this doesn't quite work.



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