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Very Like a Whale



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Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:30 am
LowKey says...



One of the key things that drew me to this poem was that it mirrored my thoughts regarding poetry for a very, very long time. For a while there, all you needed to say to make my light go off, my eyes glaze over, and for me to wish myself elsewhere, was to mention poetry. Then one day my teacher had us analyse this poem here, "Very Like a Whale" by Odgen Nash (August 19, 1902 – May 19, 1971).

I liked it because I could relate to it. It captured my thought process as I was reading all of these other poems that frustrated me so perfectly, that for a while there, I knew it by heart. Nash was able to get inside my head, grab my thoughts, and put them on paper so that the narrator seemed like a human being, someone that I could relate to.

The key factor here is not only the wording, but the tone. The author doesn't set his narrator in a monologue about poetry, nor does he make the narrator whine about it being the bane of his existence and woe, nor does he send the narrator into hours of calm contemplation. For the topic and situation at hand, the Narrator's tone is somewhat clipped and sarcastic. It's clear the narrator is irritated, or at least annoyed, but the point is, the author makes a point of making the tone match the mood. Annoyed and whining wouldn't have the same effect, it would just be annoying.

Ogden Nash wrote:One thing that literature would be greatly the better for
Would be a more restricted employment by the authors of simile and
metaphor.
Authors of all races, be they Greeks, Romans, Teutons or Celts,
Can't seem just to say that anything is the thing it is but have to
go out of their way to say that it is like something else.
What does it mean when we are told
That that Assyrian came down like a wolf on the fold?
In the first place, George Gordon Byron had enough experience
To know that it probably wasn't just one Assyrian, it was a lot of
Assyrians.
However, as too many arguments are apt to induce apoplexy and
thus hinder longevity.
We'll let it pass as one Assyrian for the sake of brevity.
Now then, this particular Assyrian, the one whose cohorts were
gleaming in purple and gold,
Just what does the poet mean when he says he came down like a
wold on the fold?
In heaven and earth more than is dreamed of in our philosophy
there are great many things.
But I don't imagine that among them there is a wolf with purple
and gold cohorts or purple and gold anythings.
No, no, Lord Byron, before I'll believe that this Assyrian was
actually like a wolf I must have some kind of proof;
Did he run on all fours and did he have a hairy tail and a big red
mouth and big white teeth and did he say Woof Woof?
Frankly I think it is very unlikely, and all you were entitled to say,
at the very most,
Was that the Assyrian cohorts came down like a lot of Assyrian
cohorts about to destroy the Hebrew host.
But that wasn't fancy enough for Lord Byron, oh dear me no, he
had to invent a lot of figures of speech and then interpolate them,
With the result that whenever you mention Old Testament soldiers
to people they say Oh yes, they're the ones that a lot of
wolves dressed up in gold and purple ate them.
That's the kind of thing that's being done all the time by poets,
from Homer to Tennyson;
They're always comparing ladies to lilies and veal to venison,
And they always say things like that the snow is a white blanket
after a winter storm.
Oh it is, is it, all right then, you sleep under a six-inch blanket of
snow and I'll sleep under a half-inch blanket of unpoetical
blanket material and we'll see which one keeps warm,
And after that maybe you'll begin to comprehend dimly
What I mean by too much metaphor and simile.


Basically, the guy captures the human voice and incorporates it into his poem to make it feel real and worthwhile.
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Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:14 pm
Moriah Leila says...



I had never read this poem before, but I really like it. I think it is hilarious and I like that it is straight to the point. I totally agree with Nash about too many metaphors and similes, that is probably why I hate poetry, because I am trying to figure out just what the author means. Thank you for doing this poem, I think your analyzation was brilliant.
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Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:51 am
Snoink says...



Haha, what an interesting poem! It kind of reminds me of talking with my engineering friends, actually. They don't really read poetry at all. In fact, in the computer lab during the beginning of the quarter said, "The road less traveled" and looked around, hoping anyone would notice the Frost reference. Nobody did--except for me. But I think, to the technically-minded people or the people who are firmly grounded in reality, it's frustrating to see all these metaphors appear when there is no physical way which those comparisons can be carried out.

Still... with the internet and everything, it's easier to look up random bits of allegory faster than ever. Awesome, no?
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