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by herb

Published October 8, 2024

In w) substantial distance - experimental poetry

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Stickied · herb commented Comment · Oct 8, 2024

text, however it has none of the markings the image has. sorry.

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check that students understood the excerpt of misunderstandings and constant nightmarish epiphanies.

ask: understand that the difference between misery and time does not exist, furthermore, how do they coexist? we know that time is imaginary, it plagues us but we never can grasp it.

have students discuss question, but also have them ponder about the confines of life and definition of home, melancholia and foolishness. write those answers here:

home:
somewhere we can never be
where the heart is supposedly, but never seems to be
a last resort

melancholia:
missing what wasn’t yours
the grief of love being lost, death, and something related to time
misery

foolishness:
something we all have
explained in misunderstandings: the loss of ability to be flawless
undoings

with these half-hearted memories: allow students to incorporate the following ideas into their conscious:

we are never truly free: the meaning of time is linked to melancholia, home, and foolishness.

time:
defined by a never ending misery; inescapable and irrevocable. it is the driving force for the loss of home, the sparks of melancholia, and all actions induced by foolishness.

home:
somewhere we are never able to be, for it is ripped from your hands when you lose your sense of self and you lose your memories of your mother tongue.

melancholia:
the apprehensive last resort of all sadness: the final stage of grief, a furthering of what time can do to you.
see: endless void of heart, the vacuum silence.


end class with this final question, (make students do for homework): how do we forget our melancholy, renew our homes (break vacuum silence) and undo the scars of time?


extra credit: find definitions for void of heart, apprehension, misery, and memory. then have them supplement their reasons and memory with those definitions.


this one is really experimental, i wanted to try to make something new. hopefully it worked!

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seawolf commented Comment · Oct 16, 2024

omg this is so good

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seawolf commented Comment · Oct 16, 2024

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Ainessee commented Comment · Oct 16, 2024

"home:
somewhere we are never able to be, for it is ripped from your hands when you lose your sense of self and you lose your memories of your mother tongue."
Jeez, that hurts in the good way, I love it. This is such a cool format!

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Snoink wrote a review Review · Oct 13, 2024

Ahhhh! I love this. :) I love the format too. Now, I'm not a teacher, so I'm not sure exactly what teaching notes look like. However, when I first sat down to read to read this work, I was like, "Oh, actual teaching notes. That's cool." Then, as I read through it I kind of forgot that I was reading teaching notes and get into the poem... except sometimes there would be directions that would jolt me out of the poem and make me aware that it was teaching notes. So, I really liked how it went back and forth of being teaching notes and then a poem and then teaching notes... it almost felt like I wasn't allowed to rest in the poem and had to keep hurrying, which is kind of what you have to do as a teacher, lol... provide direction to the students!

Now, the only real thing that I wasn't really a fan of was the extra credit bit. I like the idea of ending the class with the final question, as well as a quest for homework. The extra credit just seemed a bit too much.

Anyway, thanks for posting! :)

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candyhearts wrote a review Review · Oct 13, 2024

Hai :3

This is so beautiful and powerful!! The way you’ve structured it feels almost like a philosophical lesson disguised as poetry, and that makes it hit even deeper. I love the fragmented style as well!! It really emphasizes the brokenness of the ideas you’re working with ~~ Like, these memories can’t be fully pieced together. It really taps into the existential dread of time and memory, but it's done in a way that I've never really seen before. That's so cool to explore a structure like that!!

I especially dig how you use home as this unreachable concept; it adds such a layer of sadness and yearning, and like, that's such a mood!! The whole thing feels like you’re inviting people to dissect the human condition and loss, especially with how time is portrayed as inescapable and linked to memory. There’s a LOT of really rich material here to chew on!! It’s almost like a warning or a lament, instead of being portrayed as just a poem. That adds more layers to it I think!!

home:
somewhere we can never be
where the heart is supposedly, but never seems to be
a last resort


!!! This is such a brilliant stanza!!

The line “somewhere we can never be” is especially poignant to me!! It encapsulates this idea of longing for something unattainable, which ties so perfectly into the theme of home as an elusive concept. It has such a raw, almost painful resonance ~~ Like, it represents the inevitable erasure that happens with time, but also something deeply personal to you. It’s so loaded with philosophical weight. It balances literal with metaphorical very well!! They intersect and it's not too much.

home:
somewhere we are never able to be, for it is ripped from your hands when you lose your sense of self and you lose your memories of your mother tongue.


I love this!! The idea of losing your mother tongue is like losing the core of who you are. It’s not just about language, but about identity, roots, and the very essence of connection to your past. It ties in perfectly with the themes of time and memory because, over time, we can lose touch with where we come from ~~ Like, whether that’s our literal language, culture, or even just a sense of belonging. That is such a deep and thought-provoking stanza because of that!!

^^^ The phrase “mother tongue” evokes this visceral image of roots and heritage, but in your poem, time seems to have severed that connection. You could talk about how time and memory aren’t just concepts but thieves!! Clearly, something has been taken from you. I can't truly understand what it means to you because you don't let me. It's vague and slightly out of view; I think it could be very powerful if you elaborate!! Like, how does that make you feel?

end class with this final question, (make students do for homework): how do we forget our melancholy, renew our homes (break vacuum silence) and undo the scars of time?


Chilling !!!

I love how it’s framed as almost impossible!! Like, yes, how do we ever undo the effects of something so inevitable as time? It's all-consuming. It makes me think about how it feels to lose something I didn’t even know I was losing until one day, it’s just gone. The whole melancholic, introspective tone is perfection as well!! You totally nailed that feeling of cosmic sadness and human futility, which I am living for. Amazing work here, as always!! It's great to read more from you!! <3

- Payton

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romanticchemist commented Comment · Oct 9, 2024

century I love this! it's such a creative format, I've never seen a poem done like this. Bravo!



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