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Thanks to all who helped
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canislupis thanks so much for the review
I had to take it down because it might be included in coursework which is sent to the national exam board, anything that has been previously on the internet MUST be taken down. Thanks
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Hi there!
I'm not sure why you took this down... Just because you have to bring it in to school doesn't mean it can't still be up here for everyone to see it!
Anyway, I'm not sure if you still wan this, but this is the overdue review on your piece!!! (I know, it's been what, a month?) * Is very guilty *
I'll post it anyway, in case you want to use the comments for a future revision.
Sorry I couldn't do this sooner!
~Lupis
Lhighton, thankyou so much for the review
and I shall find a way to fix that problemo
You rock, and thanks to everyone else too, who's taken the time to review it xD
Lhighton, you made a genius comment about how Eden talks of others, but not of herself. I think that might be why some people don't think the character development is right. So, thanks millions
xD
Kirsten, after your many critiques of my work, I thought your own deserved some attention. I'm glad I decided to review this, because it really is exceptional.
I love the subject matter, I love the time period, so this is a winner as far as I'm concerned.
Blah! You know, I liked this story a lot, but this opening sentence does not work. It actually makes no sense, and that it is wholly down to error in punctuation. Maybe it should be: My father - much to our surprise - was back at work, and much more concealed now. Okay, perhaps it sounds a bit long-winded, but at least it makes sense now.Let's get onto those nitpicks.
You mentioned this before, I know. There really is nothing wrong with saying Jews. That is a correct word. You can say Jewish people, but that is probably used more by people who try so hard to be PC that they are quite the opposite. This is just opinion here.
Capitals needed for the name of the street has already been mentioned. Can I just say, though, that I loved your description of the building - it perfectly captures it in the eyes of a child.
Eek, more abuse of punctuation I think. It's a shame, because aside from that your writing is quite faultless. Lucky for you, however, it is a skill you can learn, unlike suffering from telling not showing, etc. Why hyphenate? I think: My father had unsuccessfully been fighting a particular case for many months now. Try not to fall back on hyphens too much - they can be used cleverly and unnecessarily.
Your descriptions are otherwise vivid and memorable, but this was a bit YA. It's like you tried to describe her whole appearance - WHAM - in one sentence. I think subtlety is required.
This is what I mean about vivid imagery in your narration. I pictured this - it was a touching scene. And subtle! Very moving, too.
I wasn't like Orli; I didn't see the point in disappearing. Instead, I concluded that life would be easier if I faced up reality.
Punctuation, again, seems to have been butchered. Sorry, Kirsten! It's all fixable, though. Commas should be within speech-marks, new dialogue should be on a separate paragraph.
Seeing as this is not a play-script, I don't think the "(cough)" additions are necessary. But that's up to you. I also have an issue with you writing "bbbeg" and "ssirr" etc. Can't you describe how she is speaking and then type it out properly?
I think you meant cynical. Typo?
Punctuation, again, has gone a bit awry, but other than that, it was very affecting.
SO...
I thought this was great. I realise it doesn't look that way with my fussy nitpicks, but I think you'll find they are largely punctuation/grammar based. Apart from that, it was brilliantly written. You obviously read grown-up novels and that shows - it had not the least cliche or YA aspect to it. It was hard-hitting, real, no-nonsense. It worked brilliantly.
I was intrigued at how you didn't fall into the trap of insy-winsy paragraphs for effect. They were long like in a proper novel, and not dull or pedantic at all. Altogether, it was very mature.
The characters... I thought Eden was interesting. I liked to hear from her POV. Perhaps there was something missing, though - I don't think it was your fault, but rather that you were trying so hard to portray the setting and the political backdrop. Eden spoke of other people a lot, but not much of herself.
I'm not that well-informed on the history of the time, but I was wondering if you researched at all? One thing I was wondering about was the names of the characters. Are they all authentic German? I'm probably wrong but at times I did wonder if you'd just taken them from the top of your head because you thought they sounded German?
I don't think it was too formal at all. I think that people who say it is are perhaps better suited to a different type of fiction. This is mature stuff, not your typical run-of-the-mill adventure stories or romances. Of course, this needs a strict edit, to tidy up little errors, but then I think you have a strong story on your hands. I hope that you can keep it up!
In conclusion, do carry it on! It had me hooked, surprisingly. It was a bit long. Better, I'm sure, to read on paper than at the computer
Ok, I have to say the subject matter and the characters need some serious work. Your narrator sounds a lot older than eleven. The dreamy sister is one dimensional, as is the mother. The father I like, sounds like Atticus Finch
The story needs more meat to it though, for sure. A lot of books have been written about Nazi Germany and the Jews there. To make yourself stand out you need an extraordinary story and relatable characters. However, I really liked your death of innocence theme. It fits really well with the subject matter.
Hey there Kirsten! Nitpicks first, overall afterwards. I'm going to do this now until Chapter 3, and finish it later.
Do you like the characters? Are they well developed... The usual.
The language - I need a lot of help here! People who have read some of my work know I have a huge problem with writing 'I be' and I really need help on that
the language used is perhaps a bit too formal for the time period but I don't really want to change it.
Overall opinions. Should I carry on with it?[/b]
How can I improve the start? I'm having real problems with it and I hate it. Help ? !
They are developing superbly, however you need to change the execution of how they are developing. Show, Don't Tell. Have your characters interacting thruogh dialogue and events, rather than doing huge profiles for each of them. See overall comments.
That problem wasn't at all apparent here. I don't mind that it's slightly old-fashioned, because it makes your work so endearing from the pages of chick-lit styled writing on the forums. Many people write novels set in a more modern period, in a more old-fashioned style. It's refreshingly original.
YES!
I've edited most of it in the nit picks.
Rephrase: Much to our surprise, my father was now back at work, though the whole matter was much more concealed now.
Capitalise Heisst Street. [Oh and to Haruno - it is a legitimate German name, lol.]
I love this.
But I think you should replace the colon with 'reading:'
A lot of unnecessary space after these names.
My father had been fighting unsuccessfully on a particular case for many months now.
The apostrophe in friends' should be friend's.
Lovely description, but the first part of the sentence should simply read, 'Ari was averagely built.' It just flows better.
This is a good insight, but you need to show rather than tell. Show us her personality through events, through how she interacts with other characters. Instead of narrating it, show your character talk with this girl, and through their dialogue show how she is quiet and how her sense of humour is trivial. I'll elaborate on this in the overall comments.
Love this!
This should be, 'He indulged himself upon...' .
Again - show rather than tell. But this was well written.
No need for an apostrophe in Cohens, darling, as it's plural, not possessive.
Imperturbably doesn't quite fit here. I know it's hard, but as writers, we should try to fit the least possible amount of adverbs into our writing. Every time you're about to insert an adverb, think about whether it's actually going to do anything for the sentence. That will help you, as it has done me.
This is good, but irrelevant here. Think of somewhere else to recycle it.
Change the comma to a semi-colon.
Replace the comma after 'grimace' to a fullstop. Please believe me, it would give it so much more effect.
Good, but there's some grammar amendments:
Replace the comma after 'on' with a fullstop.
Nix the comma after rise.
Replace the comma after normality with a fullstop.
Put 'then' before 'the day'.
Nix the comma after 'bed'.
Take out the apostrophe in 'it's'.
and replace the second 'Orli' with 'her'.
Wonderful perception.
Overall Comments
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Okay, Kirsten darling. This is all so great. It's perceptive and mature, it gives us such great insight into the characters. But you have a problem with your execution, and that is telling instead of showing. Take the huge chunk of paragraph I've quoted, and the couple before that, and transform them completely. Keep the ideas, the concepts, the wonderful emotions and descriptions and philosophies you work into them, and transform them into dialogues, events, interceptions, interactions.
II
The characterisation was great in this chapter. Okay, I hate talking to you about characterisation because I feel like a huge, huge hypocrite. So just try to forget that mine is so lame, for the time being. xD But the problem is, you're telling the characterisation, rather than showing it. It's like a huge character profile, rather than a story. It doesn't matter whether it's large scale, personal or inter-personal, you just need a way of showing your character's personality through other characters. Show your MC interacting with different people, seeing the world through their own perspective, having their inner monologues, contradicting themselves(yet make sure these contradictions apply consistently and make sense). I adore -ADORE all the characters you've created, you just need to make the execution better.
III
There was a problem with Telling instead of Showing. This is really common, and easy to solve, if you have the right guidelines. So, I've told you these a thousand, thousand times. But I'm just going to ramble on, because a) I like writing them for some sad reason.
b) Then, you'll have another copy.
1. Use Dialogue It allows the reader to experience a scene as if they were there, and can give your reader a great deal about character, emotion and mood. I noticed you were telling a lot of the dialogue passively, instead of having it happen actively, which is what you should be doing. It would also help a lot with your characterisation problem.
2. Use Sensory Language In order for readers to fully experience what you’re writing about, they need to be able to see, hear, taste, smell and touch the world around them. Try to use language that incorporates several senses, not just sight.
3. Be Descriptive. I’m sure everyone remembers learning to use adjectives and adverbs in elementary school. When we’re told to be more descriptive, it’s easy to go back to those things that we were taught. But being descriptive is more than just inserting a string of descriptive words. It’s carefully choosing the right words and using them sparingly to convey your meaning. Take basic information and paint a picture with it, maybe using figurative language. When using description, it’s important not to overdo it. *COUGHS* Because that's not me at all. *COUGH COUGH*
4. Be Specific, not Vague Vague, fuzzy language tends to just frustrate the reader. Take the time to try and describe what that feeling was, and then decide how best to convey that feeling to the reader. Your readers will thank you for it. This isn't actually one of your biggest problems,as you have clever ways of describin gfeelings. Just try to keep it consistent.
Absolutely love this, but the first sentence should be a heading, and 'hoariness' is the wrong adjective.
Conclusion
Anyway, Kirsten. I really enjoyed reading this. You know I'd take your characters out for cake any day. xD Your philosophies and concepts are so mature and deep, your perception is so clear for somebody of your age. I love the plot, it's riveting even though it's not action packed. The only problem is how you've executed this. Oh Kirsten, this could be so, so great. You just need to re-write it. Hey - we're talking on MSN at the moment, obviously, and I would ADORE to help you with the re-write, giving you examples of how to show instead of tell, and changing your telling into dialogues and interactions. So yeah, just drop me a line.
Good luck! Well done!
-Sarah
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Yep, I know
Thanks for the review
xxx
This is miles better than the first piece I read by you.
It's very long...
let's see how far I get...
First of all. Communism? In Germany? Nah-uh. Germany was facist, kiddo.
Rewrite: Heisst Street.
Also, I trust you, but make sure you don't just make up German-sounding names.
I'm pretty sure it's a boy's name. Yeah, it is.
This is a sentence fragment.
A sentence fragment again. Fit it in somewhere.
Replace the comma with a semi colon.
Every day. It's two words.
With it is? I don't think so. Take out the apostrophe- it should be "its".
Um, what? This makes no sense.
The word eat/eating becomes repetitive.
Maybe re-write as, "He began to eat, not even bothering to observe what he was consuming".
A sentence fragment again. Fit it in somewhere.
I'll finish this later...
Hope this helped,
Sakura