Young Writers Society

hey anthony its matt. YOu just pointed out that us "walking together" sounds gay. But for all you people out there who have weir dminds were not. We are getting shape for spring sports losers.

Hey anthony its matt. Oh yeha right your sitting right next to me. Oh well. I liked the story. And during our walk i heard what is really is building up to. Put it on paper and get it published



















PS: make the corrections everyones throwing at you THEN get it published

Lilyy03 wrote:About the present tense stuff - it's true it's relatively unusal, and can get messy and hard to read, but it is possible to pull off. From my own reading and (limited) writing experience, it may be easier in first person. I think it can make the reader and writer feel "closer" to the narrating character, if that makes sense. As if they're experiencing things along with the character.
But in this story so far, with the third person narration and not much of any particular character's viewpoint, traditional past tense might be better... Just my opinion, though.

Oh, and something else I thought of, sometimes it just seems like your saying,

"And he did that, and then she did this..."

Add vivid words to describe HOW he did this and that, you know what I mean?

About the present tense stuff - it's true it's relatively unusal, and can get messy and hard to read, but it is possible to pull off. From my own reading and (limited) writing experience, it may be easier in first person. I think it can make the reader and writer feel "closer" to the narrating character, if that makes sense. As if they're experiencing things along with the character.
But in this story so far, with the third person narration and not much of any particular character's viewpoint, traditional past tense might be better... Just my opinion, though.

As soon as I saw those present tense verbs I came to the reply box.

Ill do the old bookshop test. GO into a book show with 2 baskets - put all the present tense fictions in one and the past tense fictions in the other.

Get my drift? Present tense is so difficult for many people to read as it doesn't recount a story, it tells it as if its happening. The verb form is messy as its not usual to pick up a story and read it in the present.

My personal opinion is drop the present tense instantly and go to the past tense.

This is good...but you skipped over some punctuations.

I suggest you read this out loud to yourself and imagine yourself being one of the characters. Where would you normally pause? Put a comma there.

Overall, it's nicely written.

It's really cool, But it looks like you rushed to write this. You should build up the suspician that it isn't Like jason to fight. Elena doesn't seem to realize anything different about Jason, and by your descriptions, it sounds like Elna would. I don't know Jason well enough to be confused as well.
But it's a cool idea. It captures your reader. i want to keep reading!

you really need to finish your books

Yo ^_^.

"You fool, what were you thinking. You could have been killed," says a young women. "Only you would be so stupid." She starts to rap a bandage around a young man's hand. "Your lucky my fathers a doctor you idiot." She finishes mending his hand and puts the small roll back into here bag. "What were you doing anyway Jason?"

- ‘She starts’ - I don’t like the ‘starts’, as it isn’t really needed and detaches the reader from the story. Just, ‘She raps a bandage (etc)’ would work better.

- ‘Your’ = ‘you’re’. Remember, it’s ‘you’re’ when you wanna say: ‘you are’. The apostrophe represents a missing letter (in this case, the ‘a’)

- ‘fathers’ should be ‘father’s’. Once again, the apostrophe is for a missing letter - you’re saying ‘father is’, and so the shortened version is ‘father’s’.

- The ‘you idiot’ doesn’t feel as though it flows that well. As she’s already called Jason an idiot, you could just remove it.


gives her a feint smile.

- ‘feint’ = ‘faint’.


"It's times like these were we have to do what we can, or we'll go insane. He starts to giggle.

- Missing the closing speech mark.


"Don't worry Elena, It's okay, I'm sorry. He hugs her and gives her a kiss on the forehead.

- Missing second speech mark again.


But why Jason, Why did you go up against his henchmen?"

- Missing the opening speech mark this time.


Just then they heard foot steps.

- Things like, ‘just then’, ‘he began’, ‘they started’ etc. usually detract from the story rather than add, and should be used rather carefully. As a rule of thumb, I’d advise you to avoid them whenever you can, and instead trying to find another way to word it.


He stairs Jason in the eye, "What happened?"

- ‘stairs’ = ‘stares’.

- ‘,’ = ‘.’


"Three. I got one with a clean uppercut. Smashed his jaw and he died."

- How would you die from a smashed jaw? It wouldn’t directly affect the brain badly enough to kill them, nor would there be enough blood loss for them to bleed to death.


The present tense is hard to write in, and I would imagine that you would do a better job with the past tense instead (simply because it’s a more natural way to recount a story). Of course, it’s your decisions, so I’ll leave it up to you to decide.

I would also suggest that you toy with your dialogue, as bits of it just flow smoothly or naturally. Try reading the dialogue in your favourite books and pay special attention to how the author makes it ebb and flow.


I like the story, simply because it’s very character driven. The plot line so far is simple, but works well to introduce us to Jason (who I’m guessing will be your protagonist), and hints at the background of your world - the Devils Ring (I think you may actually mean ‘Devil’s Ring’, which would make more sense) in particular.

Keep on writing .

Wow, there are already other comments. Sorry if I repeat (I was eating supper in the meantime, lol), but as I was writing I could not refreash my page and see what was written in the comments.

Thank you both. The reason I seemed to rush through this Chapter was for suspense. To make the read go on to find out more.

Firstly, add question marks when they are needed =):
a) The writing is more clear
b) Simply because it is a courtesy to the reader

Here we go:

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"You fool, what were you thinking. You could have been killed," says a young women.
'Woman' not 'women'. I have a feeling that this is not the total beginning, and if it isn’t, I don’t really understand why you wrote ‘a young woman’ instead of Elena. (If this is indeed the beginning, then I think you should give her description).

-At some points you use 'and' to many times. Try to avoid that.
quote:
Jason turns his head and looks at the girl and gives her a feint smile

quote:
"This is no laughing matter Jason
A comma after 'matter'

Another matter is using 'he' to much. Try using synonyms.

quote:
The forest stretches on till you see the burning city that has lost its name.
I suspect that that was supposed to be in those " (sorry, I totally forgot how they are called). Otherwise it does not make much sense to me.

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But why Jason,(...)
A '"' symbol on the beggining.

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"What?" Elena looks around. "This was it. Jason, I'm sorry."
I don't understand the 'this was it' bit.

quote:
"So these were is low lives."
I'm not entirely sure about the meaning of this...

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In his mind he told himself
You are writing in time present =)

Generally the story was okay, I liked it. The description of the fight was great. Remember about the question marks, please. I am looking forward to next chapter, but first I need to read the beginning lol

Keep up the good work,
-elein

Sure! Whatever you think is good for the story- I just thought it might be a good idea. I've had bad experiences...Snoink told me to change my tense, and I pretty much shunned the idea, until I eureka'ed at the 35k mark and said, "Hmm...this would be much better in past tense, no?"

...accompanied by a bit of swearing, of course, but you get the picture.

You must evade the curse of Snoink- good luck to you!

Looks like an interesting start. Lots of action and emotion...
You just seem to go through it all rather fast, without creating very much depth. Maybe slow down, and just give the reader a bit more, if that makes sense.

There are several missing apostrophes, commas, and quotation marks. And some misspellings... I'd recommend just reading it over carefully, and using a spelling and/or grammar checker if you can.

She starts to rap a bandage around a young man's hand.

The past tense isn't something I'm going to do. The reason why is this story will take about 6 books to finish. The romance thing is a good point, but it's still the first chapter. I get into a lot more things next.

Hey! Haven't seen you around before, but that's probably just me being neglectful...

I quite liked this story- it's got this kid who's recently screwed up his life. Yeah, not such a good thing, but you could go, really, in any direction from here. Keeps the readers interested, right?

One thing, though: this piece is really emotional, and from what I gather from your writing here, your personal style isn't so much. I've got the same problem, too- my writing's more of a narrative than anything else, which makes it hard to deal with certain characters (I've got one at the moment who is bi-polar- it's really hard to set down all the 'feeling' that goes along with that). Suggestion? Write this in third person (which you've done) past tense. This way, you don't have to deal with all of the impulsive emotions of the moment. It won't bring quite so much attention to the fact that you're out of your comfort zone, and it's an easy way to hide that...little fact that you're more of a narrative writer than a feelings writer. In past tense, you can destract your readers with...shiny things in the background!

And when you've got a moment, just run this through Spell/Grammar check. It doesn't bite...promise...and it'll help gain a few more readers.

Well, good luck, and sayonara!