Adorno said there is no love that is not an echo

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Adorno says that the failing of science is in believing that one can simply make connections to create something new. He says that there has to be a jump, a divine inspiration, something that creates a connection between two things we believe to be separate that it creates a new reality. Helmholtz said that the best way to solve a problem was by walking up a slow incline.

Thus divine inspiration is what always struck me to be the basis of love.

I imagine Jesus of Nazareth thrashing on the ground in The Last Temptation of Christ. Was the fire he saw in front of him God? He can separate it because he was the person who personified all people, the person who could feel everyone and then make them feel him at the same time. Looking into his eyes, you can feel the human spirit local in everyone and then you become connected, entangled permanently in that moment of time. Even if your spirits unravel, you will never forget what it felt to be simultaneously everyone at once. Sometimes I wonder what everyone is, or the meaning of forever.

What I believe is in the action that transcends time to communicate between two particles, and then that’s how the two entangled particles change each other, even across space and time. Okan said to me that there are a million electrons that will fly around above us and will never ever interact with us. Millions of electrons we’ll never ever see. Where do they go? Should we care about them in the first place? I think briefly of my body, everything that keeps me grounded, human.

Love and violence. That is very human. For the love of the action, we commit violence. Interiority, or whatever that means. I wonder how to separate the inside from the outside. I want to hurt someone just for the sake of hurting. What lies beneath your skin? When I pursue the interiority you have, I know I am destroying you to create a concept of you in my mind, an idea of you.

You were so busy thinking about whether you could that you forgot to ask whether you should.

Similarly, because I know that I can, I feel like I should. I choose to believe. I want to believe in you. Is it wrong for me to want you because I need to know what else is inside of you? How do people resist the urge to pull someone apart? It's like those "cannibalism as a metaphor for love" folks, except far less grotesque. When I love you, it’s because I know there’s something under your fibers, and science acts the same way. I want to capture you in a way that I can always return to, where your concept will always be something completely new again. Rebirth, I say, or something.

For example, when Oppenheimer is watching the millions of raindrops hit the ground and scatter, does he feel the joy of creation? Or does he just feel like himself, the same man he was before?

Adorno says that you can’t consider what the action from the thought will be. Sometimes the thought itself is enough. But what do you do when you are compelled to take the action? You need to stop and think, Adorno would tell me, but the rush in my head is just the millions of raindrops that splash and hit and refract. There is no space in my head. I have many thoughts that don't move me forward towards my destiny, of course, and I feel deeply uncertain about them.

When your mind is so preoccupied with the images God sends to you, it seems like a given that you must follow the angel he sends down to guide you. I don’t know if I can blame Oppenheimer for developing the bomb if the messages in his head told him to. He saw the atoms crashing into each other and suddenly a mysterious benefactor came down to him, said I will allow you to chase these dreams absolutely. Maybe it was the only thing he could have believed in in his entire life.

My head feels empty when I don’t have something to think about. I know whether I will like someone or not, or something or not, because I can read the entire thing in one look. I am directed to love or hate by something inside or outside of me, something I can't name or place.

Science is the core of my purpose. It’s a love affair that I am not particularly loyal to, one that waits for me regardless of how good I am with it. It’s the only thing that forgives me totally. The need to create something, to mold something, to become something that is inexplicable in how it was made; all of it defines my soul. I am a conduit. My body is all in service to that deep compulsion that has no explanation, except a thunderclap that makes me realize that I must do it no matter what.

Your calling will be your calling until you go deaf.

Even when philosophy is destroyed, Adorno said, we must continue to create a philosophy beyond philosophy. We destroyed physics and put it back together to make something to destroy to playfulness of quantum. What could Oppenheimer do after he created the bomb when science itself felt forced to reject him? Will I be rejected like that someday? Will I find a deeper purpose like that again?

Love is the feeling of shock. That was why Oppenheimer was so compelled to move from person to person, because he couldn’t help but try to unravel the things that created this new sensation. There are similarities in my own human experience. His atoms moved in a new resonance, as mine do. We didn’t know was a physical possibility, the high and feeling of being torn apart.

I will let myself collapse in the face of something totally beautiful and holy. I have found myself here many times. With my limited human ability, I reach out my hand. I try to believe.

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Aislynn
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Aislynn wrote a review · Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:52 pm

Hi Seoyoung!

Ooh wow, this is so deep! I love how you’re tying together science, love, and human experience like it's seamless. You’re writing about Adorno, Oppenheimer, and these massive existential questions together. I would've never thought to combine all of those! It gives the whole thing a sense of urgency, like you’re really wrestling with what it means to believe. Now, let’s dive in!

First, that opening about Adorno’s thoughts on science and creation? Brilliant! It sets the tone immediately, and I love how you use it to bridge the gap between divine inspiration and love. You’re setting up this idea that love isn’t just a feeling, but it's a creation. It’s a strong hook, and I love how you build on it! It's like every metaphor comes up again later on! The amount of layers you've created is crazy!

One thing I’d love to see more of is a deeper exploration of why you’re drawn to these questions. You’ve already got such a strong voice, but there are moments where I want to know more about what’s driving this need to believe! I want to know what's pulling you toward science, philosophy, and love in this way. It feels like there’s so much more under the surface. I want it to come out again!

You’ve got a lot of really profound thoughts here, but sometimes the philosophical jumps feel a little hard to follow. I agree with the other reviewer! I am one who loves complex writing, but I know when it's too much! All of the ideas swimming around here feel like they could stand on their own. That's not a bad thing, but it's not good when your writing feels disconnected. There could be glue to hold it together.

Overall though, this is such a stunning story! I don't even know what to classify this as, but I know it's super deep and meaningful anyway! =D

— Solstice

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candyhearts
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Seoyoung!! Hai :3

Aaa it's so exciting to read more of your stories!! I'm not the best when it comes to prose or even nonfiction, but I love your writing more than anything ^_^

This is so good!! The way you weave Adorno’s philosophy with love and science is like this huge, cosmic conversation that feels both deeply intellectual and intensely personal. I’m really feeling the way you explore the entanglement of particles and people ~~ It’s as if love, at its core, is this scientific, almost inevitable force that binds us across space and time!! The idea of love as divine inspiration instead of something scientific is so striking here too. The juxtaposition is interesting!! It’s like being consumed by the sheer magnitude of what it means to be human.

The Oppenheimer bit is amazing too!! The way you describe his relationship to science as a kind of love affair feels so deeply personal, as if creation itself is a compulsion, a calling you can’t ignore, even when it leads to destruction. There’s this almost tragic element in your writing, like you’re exploring the cost of brilliance, of love, of pushing boundaries ~~ It makes me think of how we grapple with the consequences of our actions after the fact, like with Oppenheimer and his bomb.

For the love of the action, we commit violence


I got chills from reading this !!!

There’s such a raw, almost primal undercurrent to this whole narrative. It feels like you’re tapping into this deeper truth about what it means to be human, how love and violence are intertwined in ways we don’t always understand. Like, that's so bittersweet to me. There’s such a hunger in this story, this need to break things open to see what’s inside, whether it’s people, ideas, or the very fabric of the universe itself. That is sososo real!! I'm sure it doesn't always capsize with violence, but people want to know the unknown, they want to discover everything undiscovered.

^^^ I wish you explored that more!! We often talk about love as this pure, wholesome thing, but you're exploring how love can also be ugly, driven by obsession and a need to possess and control. It never came to a head for me though; all of the metaphors end up dying towards the end. There is no final realization or connection between the violence and the other aspects of the story. All of your overarching themes fall apart towards the end ~~ The violence, the Oppenheimer arc, even the divinity has no real conclusion. I want to see so much more!!

He saw the atoms crashing into each other and suddenly a mysterious benefactor came down to him, said I will allow you to chase these dreams absolutely. Maybe it was the only thing he could have believed in in his entire life.


Here is an example of what I mean: how does this connect? There's an overwhelming amount of intellectual ground covered here (Adorno and Helmholtz / Oppenheimer and quantum physics / Jesus and religion / violence and love), but none of it sticks. Right now, it feels like you’re trying to juggle a lot of intense concepts, and it dilutes the impact of each one. The story is just too cerebral and cold to balance everything. I wish you explored your personal relationship to these ideas, so that it could be an anchor to the narrative. It's human, but I feel no human warmth.

I will let myself collapse in the face of something totally beautiful and holy. I have found myself here many times. With my limited human ability, I reach out my hand. I try to believe.


I adore this ending!! I feel like it has the strongest sentence in the entire story, the one about the collapse in the face of something beautiful and holy.

It’s like this quiet surrender to the forces you’ve been grappling with throughout the whole storyline. I love how you end with that attempt to believe, to reach out, to try, despite everything. That's so human!! It's so compelling, that even the most intimate connection carries the weight of destruction. This feels like an entire universe of thought in a few paragraphs; intellectual, emotional, raw, and so very poetic!! <3

- Payton

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For example, when Oppenheimer is watching the millions of raindrops hit the ground and scatter, does he feel the joy of creation? Or does he just feel like himself, the same man he was before?


oh, what have you done to me! gorgeous, truly gorgeous.



Some call me a legacy, others call me a hero. But I assure you, dear admirers, I am only human.
— Persistence