Those books are awesome! Lol! I give them 9 out of 10 because some of the parts got boring. 
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The Inheritance series is very controversial. It seems like people either love them or hate them.
I only read the first paragraph of the prologue of the book... haha... even though my friends tell me that its only the prologue thats boring, I can't bring myself to read the rest of the book...
I haven't read the books, but the way you guys talk about it....
I don't think I'll ever pick it up.
Anyway, I find it no wonder that the book became fat if it was full of sentences similar to "the young man was young".
Were the books really that bad?
Yours truly,
Memento Mori
i agree they are both really good books, i sense a great and lengthy future for young Paolini.
Hahaha!
Dam I'm doing it again! Back to the topic...
Sorry, I tried to drag us back on topic several times...
I know that it's a publicity thing. But it's still pretty fun to bash...
Although, considering that I do write a diary with a glass pen and a bottle of purple ink I can't really call him a poser... but still
Well, he's not really posing. That sort of publicity photograph isn't all that uncommon.
Lol, he's such a poser! How vain can you get?!
*or bitter*
Just for the record, I tend to sit a little like that when writing by hand or reading.
Ha! If he does write those hideously long sponges by hand, I wish him much fun transcribing it to the computer. XD
OK, I think the tangent has gone a bit far. If you want to discuss these other books, by all means make a thread for them, but, here, do please keep to the topic for which this thread was intended.
LOL at that! Yes, well, it's obviously been posed to some degree. And it must kill his back. Perhaps he should write like that more often... *is not evil or vindictive in any way*
lol no *cries* na I got a week off and im in all day today. im going every other day *yay!*
ye thats ride of the rohhirm, its my faovurite scene in LotR
Aedomir, no offence, but you really seem like you have no life at the moment
PS- is that the Ride of the Rohirrim as your avatar? It looks like it...
Okay, completely back on topic again...
Ye I was just thinking that, watchin you two talk about completly irreleavnt things is pretty funny though!
yeah, I haven't read the Lost Barkscrolls, I'd prefer to hear more about the Freegladers to tell the truth....
But we're getting off-topic here...
Well I've got all of them except the newest one which I wished would of carried on from Free Gladers. I prefer hearing about that. I was shocked that both Professor died really remember. That made me sad. I liked them both. er not digress from this too muchj even though alot agree books are terrible. Inheritance lmao.
lol
I have nothing better to do so I am posting in this forum
Thats how fun my life is woo!
*Googles*
There are a lot of names... No offence, I bet they're good, just really don't look like my cup of tea.
Just looking at your post again... Midnight Over Sanctaphrax was my favourite too... weirdly enough the only one I don't own... although I cried at the end of it as well when I realised Twig would never find Maugin and the others again...
They are terribly original books and nothing wrong with liking books with illustrations. I still read a kids book called Simon and the Witch heh.
Another thing, Ian Irvine not really high fantasy not typical either no dragons are anything. It's made up world called Sanethear.
About Edge Chronicles it was entirely original
*Phew* I was afraid I would get slapped for liking books with illustrations.
But they are highly original. Unlike these. There are characters we've never seen, wonderful species, floating rocks, sky pirates...
And actually I was going to make a comparison between Murtagh and Xanth Filatine, but no... because Murtagh goes bad again. Xanth doesn't. And I'll admit to getting teary when he undid his tether in the Twilight Woods... and plain crying when Magda *died*.
I think is Arya died I would do a little jig. (I do jigs when good things happen in books. I danced around my kitchen when Ron Weasley turned up and asked Harry if he had mental problems)...
I think one of the least flawed things in this book was Nasuada, but she's just abandoned by the wayside, so instead we can read several clichéed "I love you Arya" scenes...
I've never head of Ian Irvine, although to tell the truth I don't really read so-called high fantasy. Occasionally, yes, (the Black Magician Trilogy wasn't bad)...
I've never heard of him, sounds alright I'll check him out (that sounded weird
).
Tolkien is just so God *coughs* I mean good...
Totally agreed The Edge Chronciles rock. God the picture in curse of the Gloamglozer of it impersonating thingy really freaked me out. My favourite Midnight Over Sanphrax. It's original you've gotta admit and I like how it goes through the family
Anyway I'll say it before and say it again, Ian Irvine is the best fantast writer and I even dare to say better than Toilken
lol ye I was thinking that
***!!!long lost twins!!!*** I was looking at that picture last night too and I was like "Poser!"
Ah, the word poser and Paolini bring back fond memories...
My friend had brought a paperback version of Eragon on our hockey trip and while I was, ahem, packing (it's surprising how much your stuff can spread around in three days) she was reading a passage of it and she reads part of it out. I can't remember it exactly but it was something about Arya standing in a dungeon with -I remember this bit- "a single tear like a liquid diamond" on her face, and I said "Poser! I mean, seriously, who just stands there with a tear on their face waiting to be scried (sp?) on?" We rolled around laughing, and it went down in our archive of private jokes.
So yeah. But no, I was looking at that picture last night, and I find it hard to believe that he wrote an obese book by hand lying in long grass...
lol, to be honest I jsut liked LotR because of the sentences. It wasn't just to make it arcahic, it was how he spoke. He amde it for his children to read, and that was supposedly simple to him! That is, if you haven't read Silmarrilion etc.
Bah, its just opinion. Paolini is just too... vain and self-loving. I mean here is a pic of him now:
tut tut how vain lol
When I if I publish my novels *crosses fingers* I will make sure it is 100% original. Did you know the assassins in Eragon are of the 'black hand' that is the exact name of the group that assassinated franz ferdinand in 1914 and started WW1!
~D'Aedomir~
Although Tolkien did use some grammatical structures that never actually existed in the English language (perhaps in Old English though) to make it sound archaic. Sorry, but everytime I hear that I just have to laugh.
Well, I'm not about to give out to you for liking them. I like The Edge Chronicles *blushes*. We all have some sort of guilty pleasure. And I do read them. They can be semi-enjoyable. Just... gyah...
I have the same deal with these as with Twilight. Kind of. I read them, but I'm not particularly enchanted... although it's a bit different with Twilight, I just have a problem with Bella and her stereotypical damsel-in-distress look on life.
*horrified*
They are alright, but he use a load of puncy words to hide his no-talent and poor sentence structures. Its a matter of opinion really, I just find that the LotR has a far better plot, and far improved vocab.
I greatly enjoyed them too. I got an extensive new vocabulary from reading that book. heh. They were well writeen and had a great flow. Of course, there were the common fantasy plots.
[spoiler]There was the young boy suddenly thrust into the world by the discovery of some magic, the old man as a mentor, the death of the old mentor (also seen in Harry Potter), dragon + boy, ignorance of father, evil father, unreachable love, a magical language, betrayal of family members, etc.[/spolier]
But I actually think he was very clever with those cliches. You see them all in Harry Potter, King Arthur, and most of the other popular fantasy books and series. Mixing most of the common fantasy cliches is actually what I enjoyed the most.
My only problem is that it's so flippin' predictable. heh. But yes, very good books.
I like LotR because the plot develops throguout the very long book. In Eragon, its jsut overly-worded to make it look more fantasy-like... honestly, its pathetic.
*rummages around and finds a copy of Eldest from the literary debris in her room*
Not so much really... Well, the beginning's a bit Two Towers-esque, the aftermath of a battle... and then suddenly Murtagh's dragged into a cave and No! Shock Horror!
He's dead and oh, look! There's no body...
What a tragedy... Or is it?
I will admit though, Murtagh has that kind of dark and dangerous appeal to him...
If Paolini would admit that the G is silent! Why bother using a Celtic sounding name if you're going to ignore the fact the G should either be very softly said, or not said at all! I mean, why put a pronunciation guide in the back of your book if it's not pronounced properly? Seriously...
Another thing, this book is heavy... seriously heavy... my entire illustrated Chronicles of Narnia isn't that heavy...
Ye, I admit it looks pretty ok, if you haven't read the blurb lol. As soon as you rad page 1, it gets boring. I might read it one day, but at the moment I am still in my 'read books to find tehcniques' type of mood, and some people have told me I can write better than Paolini (though don't me to that! that was somone on here not me!!!)
I might read Eldest. But the first chapter is supposedly huge rip off of lord of the rings.
I've actually got Eragon to read... But I just haven't got around to opening it yet.
It looks fabulous.
Maybe I'll give up studying for these blasted mocks and write a big fat book instead...
If only I could...
In some cases, the fatter the book the worse the prose. One of the most beautiful books I've ever read is Song for Eloise by Leigh Sauerwein. It's skinny.
Although whether it's the writing or the translating that was good it's hard to tell...
'I tried to read Eragon, but it was SO BORING.
lol! Clever!
Okay, the only thing I am reall impressed by is that he actually had the determination to write that fat book.'
I really hate exams at the mo. I used to be really high on education, but now I feel If I am just given time to write my sodden I can cactually do the thing!
~D'Aedomir~
I tried to read Eragon, but it was SO BORING.
Okay, the only thing I am reall impressed by is that he actually had the determination to write that fat book.
I mean, the truth is, bragging aside, I consider myself a good enough writer, not amazingly brilliant but I think that if I actually knuckled down and wrote rather than stressing about exams I may be able to get published. But so would a million people our age. And you can bet, if I was, and I went on tour, I'd point that out. But if he went and told people "Oh yeah, well, you should read my book because I wrote it when I was fifteen and it's great"... well, I'd slap him...
and hey, I still haven't written a decent story. They're all in my head, but once they're on paper they just kind of hover without an ending...
And also, he is SO not hot. Just thought I'd throw that in there while I'm ranting.
Ye, it is opinion but I completly agree with you.
He went around schools, mostly primary's and first schools, children who knew no better than to believe him. The secondaries (or elementaries?) that we went to had to put with lectures by him saying "I am only 20 and I am a really good writer," and stuff like that.
I have to hand it to this seven year old. I was interested in writing then, but NEVER actually write a decent story. 15 is quite old really, come to think of it. I thought it was young, but after seeing the talent this place has to offer...
Bah, this is Paolini we're talking about lol!
No, I'm not impressed by the whole "ZOMG, he wrote this when he was fifteen!" There was a seven year old who wrote a book and got published with a preface by JM Barrie. Now THAT's impressive. Mum has a copy of the book, it's called "The Visiters" but for the life of me I can't remember her name. Okay, so it's not the greatest, but she was seven, come on. But you really should have reached some sort of writing maturity by the time you're fifteen so it's not so cool. So yeah. And the fact he wasn't actually published until he was nineteen...
I can't believe that Aedomir. Did he actually? grr. Now I really don't like him.
Also, look, I'm not about to give out to all you homeschoolies, but he was homeschooled wasn't he? And somehow I get this feeling that in his case that just meant his parents let him write this book all day. Like, he had no other commitments, which would make things so much easier anyway, without school or work. I'm not saying "Erh, homeschool kids have it easy" because I'm sure that isn't the case, but in his case I get this feeling that his parents "embraced his natural ability" and poured everything into getting this book published.
And ignored trigonometry.
Oh now I'm just plain jealous.
Just my opinion btw. And I could be completely wrong. But I read somewhere he was homeschooled and this is what I thought.
No, I agree
. He actually said when he went around schools that he was better than Tolkien. That just really ticked me off.
To be honest, that's more or less a common myth, now. Yes, he was fifteen when he wrote the first draft. Then there was the period of editing before it got published the first time round. Then another year or so of promoting it, before he got noticed by the big publisher. Then a year of further editing. All in all, by the time it got published in the state it's in now, he was around 18/19. Not nearly as impressive, no?
lol ye, I know what you mean. I guess that's just me for you!
Paolin and plagiarism? I suppose it tells us what not to do. He was a 15 year old kid when he wrote eragon to be fair...
besides, I did say half, not all...
...I'm not British...
. Although I can see why...
I know this isn't a Tolkien thread, but some of it is a little hard to read, and at some points his dialogue is just plain painful. But the story's just awesome. That's why I love the movies. Except for they cut out the Scouring of The Shire and Tom Bombadil...
But Inheritance... he writes in a completely arrogant way as well, mixed with bad prose it's just like "Ick". I mean, the fact is, it's not going to stop me reading the last one, because I have this weird thing about getting attached to characters, ie. Roran in this, Jacob in Twilight, and I end up reading the series just for those characters. I don't know if that makes sense, my logic goes something like "I can't abandon them to whatever horrible fate the autor has in store for them! I must be there to hold their hand!"
Yes I know I'm weird.
lol, half the people who hate eragon are british. I guess we just hate those who copy our Tolkien's (*sign of trinity*) work.
OK, so Tolkien masy have is flaws but you know...
I HATE Paolini. He's vain, thinks he is better than Tolkien and a complet copier of him. I really hate him. I bought Eragon, read the first chapter and put it away. The plot is terrble... I mean... Drawgon riders? WTH!!!!!!!
Tolkien is the best writer in history, really!
I'm sorry, but keening is a practice that appeared in only two small countries (Scotland and Ireland) and is now extinct. In my opinion, that is the very definition of 'obscure'.
Keening isn't that uncommon the word, just to tell you. I've used it in my own stories, and I certainly don't write with a thesaurus next to me. It's a way to sing that originated in the West and in Scotland, you sing from your stomach. Generally it's only women that can do it. It's supposed to sound like the banshee's cry. I'm not complaining, I'm just saying that just because you haven't heard a word doesn't mean it's obscure, I've had to come to terms with that myself.
I do read these books, but I know what someone means when they're using the chewing gum metaphor. It's when you're between books and you need something to read. The plot of the first one wasn't half bad, but the second one left much to be desired. Like, Murtagh disappeared in the first chapter to return with a dragon? Please. What was that, deus ex machina? Yes indeed. It was just plain annoying. It was as if Paolini goes "I'm a bestselling author, now I can do whatever I like." and wrote that book.
And we went to see the movie which I won't even start on. But in the beginning minutes, Dad, who's never read the book goes "You mean to say that he lives with his uncle until his uncle's house is burnt down? So he goes exploring with that mysterious old man who's always lived close by?No, we haven't heard that one before. Is Darth Vader his father, by any chance?" and it was true.
Leaving the plot aside, the prose is quite painful at some points. To tell the truth, anyone who's read LOTR can say the same thing about it, but at least it had a story, a brilliant one in fact. This is just sorta... floppy.
Maybe he thought fancy words would make up for his lack of talent...
The lack of accuracy in Inheritance sometimes disgusts me. For example, why the hell is there a huge desert slap bang next to a country the size of Italy which has a moderate climate? And why does it just fill the centre? It's like he though "c£@p, I need a desert, otherwise it can't be awesome fantasy!"
Plus, his battle scene in Eldest has so many things wrong with it, one being Eragon has armour with gold on it, I think.
I didn't know what it meant, but then wikipedia told me:
What an unsual word choice. Does the fantasy world in the series have much to do with Scotland or Ireland, or do you think Paolini just looked 'mourning' up in a theasarus and chose the most obscure entry?
OK, I've just started reading Eldest (it's some free thing on the internet - no way would I pay to read this drivel) and in the very first paragraph I read this:
'[...]listening to the keening of women who removed loved ones[...]'
'Keening'? WTF? A) This is supposed to be a children's book - what child knows what 'keening' means? B) Even if it wasn't a children's book, what adult knows what 'keening' means? The rumours are true - Paolini's fondness for the thesaurus really did grow between writing the two books.
they're the books you read if you just want to read- like chewing bubble gum. It won't fill you up, but at least it gets your mind off of food/reading.
I read them becasue my friend recommended them. Last time I tooka recommendation from her.
I could go on, but I don't want to repeat everyone, so...
It's like reading most young adult stuff out there- not good for you, but not necessarily bad, as long as you don't start inimating them. Just something to read.
Also, it could be compared to watching "What Not to Wear" or reading the Theban Plays. It's horrible, but you can't turn away.
of course there are better books out there. Who the hell would think Eldest and Eragon where and are the best books in the world. Use your brains. (just kidding) hehehehe
The first time i read the books i thought that they were amazing. I was hooked throughout the first book but i did find the middle od Eldest not very interesting. Then i joined YWS. Everyone recognised my name and gave me some of their views on Eragon. I then re read the books and realised what they were on about. They seem extremely ripped off from star wars and LOTR but they are still an easy read.
There are definatly better books out there!
If it'll help you, go for it.
oh yeah. "deus ex machina". that was a vocabulary word a while back. I wonder if Mrs. G would give me extra credit if I printed out this conversation? you mind alleycat?
Oh, by all means, like them. I'm just letting you know that I don't.
That's a deus ex machina. Someone's in trouble and suddenly, pop, the solution appears without any prior mention. Once is okay in a good book, but several times in a poorly written one? It's a cop-out from actually writing.
But, I digress... like them if you wish.
hey, leave her alone, if she wants to like the Inheritance series, she can like the series.
I like them, sort of, although there are bits that were annoying. Like how Eragon was magically healed in the second one. GRRRRR!!! he was so much nicer when he was crippled!!!
I typically don't like to bash books, but this series so deserves it. They're poorly written, totally cliche, and the characters are all Mary/Marty Sues.
And the deus ex machina with Oromis and Murtagh? Please, give me a break!!!!
Eragon was okay. I liked Brom. The movie was nothing like the book, but it still sucked. The animation was neat, but, again, the only character I liked was Brom (go Jeremy Irons!).
Eldest? It made me gag. I cannot believe I actually finished that story with my sanity intact. The whole Eragon loves Arya thing made me disgusted. The dialogue...oh my goodness...
There are millions of novels within the heads of unpublished writers that wipe the floor with this series, and thousands of published books that abuse it to nonexistence.
yesh; the above is definitely sarcasm ^_^
If Twitters is remarking on Paolini, it's probably an insult.
Exactly! A good book's a good book, no matter how old the author is. And a bad book will be a bad book, the author's age of unimportance. Hopefully, that is.
And I've never heard of Catherine Webb, twit; I'll have to go look her up ^_^
wait Twit
Are insulting him or not lolz i can't tell
It doesn't matter if you are though each to their own
Hah, excellent books?
He was fifteen when got published, but no big deal about that. Catherine Webb was fourteen, and her books are brilliant. I don't think she was on a young writer's site either.
The Inheritance Cycle as it is now called is my 2nd favorite series.
Christopher Paolini just made a new update on his website at www.alagaesia.com
He can't fit everything in the one book so he is making a fourth one as well. with how slow he is as writing (no offense thats why he produces excellent books) we will probably have read all the cycle by 2010.
I agree with Firestalker, I'm still going to read the third book even though it's not the best. I still like it after all.
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The elders of YWS have many valuable things to teach us.
Indeed, the YWS is a brilliant advantage. :hugs YWS:
I loved it both books. But after reading that thread full of reasons not to like Eragon or Eldest i get what people mean by copying. But anyway i still am going to read the third book.
Well, it's not a BIG deal, it's just he got it published at a young age is all. But that's only because his parents own a publishing company. Lucky son of a, whoa, com down the tony.
I thought it was fifteen?
True, but he most likly doesn't belong to a writers web site like us to get help and improve. I guess we have the advantage right? I'm so happy.
Well, 19 doesnt mean anything. I've read better stuff on here than in that book.
I personaly liked the books, though y'all make good points that i have to agree with. Still, don't forget the author was only 19 when he wrote Eragon, so don't be to hard on him. Plus, the fact written wise Eldest got better means he's improving. if he continues writing I'm sure he'll get better.
The movie is nothing like the book though, as Alanna said. they can't make a second one with what they did. *Sigh*
Eragon and Arya and the like can just die for all I care. In fact, I may have to have a party when Christopher Paolini dies. I'm going through the books and finding every similarity between LOTR/Harry Potter/Star Wars and marking it in a big book.
I'd write a really long list of reasons as to why the Inheritance Trilogy sucks, but then I realized I'd much rather work on writing my own book.
thats cool i agree some parts did get boring like when eragon is doing his training out of eragon and eldest i have to say that eragon kept me hooked all through it but eldest didnt seem to have as much as an affect but the action parts were worth the boring bits dont you think?
Underneath all the ripping-off is an okay book. I'm not a big fan of Inheritance, but the first book was okay. The second book, not so much. Way too boring, and predictable, apart from the end.
The young man was young. Lol. Too funny.
it's a simple book written for simple-minded people.
the first one wasn't too bad, but the second was just ridiculous. end of story.
:face/palm:
For the love of....
La, if you want some decent fiction, look around here
But Inheritance is just hideous.
Hah hah, is that an actual line? XD
Also, I seem to recall someone quoting something along the lines of, "You're name is unique. Only a few people in the world have it." Not exactly unique then, is it?
Don't forget:
"The young man was young."
~Eldest
Maybe you should read the other Eragon thread. I think it's five pages of bashing posts, it should give you some things to think about.
I'm so sorry for you. We've lost you to the literary scourge that is: Inheritance.
These books are mostly crap. While they can be interesting, I can't believe he was allowed to publish them when they are totally plagiarizing Tolkien and Terry Brooks and the like!
If you don't count the fact that they are total rip-offs of LOTR, Star Wars, and a buch of other books they really aren't all that bad. They are very simply written and easy to read, which some people like. In my opinion, they lack character development and depth in general. Eldest is a bit better in those subjects, but it is far too long and quite boring towards the middle. Honestly I prefered Eragon because it was a lot less boring. How well they sold just goes to show you what a big difference good marketing makes. They're not terrible books, but i'm not a fan.
WARNING the movie Eragon is totally different from the book.
You poor soul. I can only imagine what effect the most cliched books in history can have on a person's psyche.
Prokaryote
You're my new best friend Macky!!!
I've read Eragon and Eldest and I share the same opinion!! Can't, really, wait for the third and last book.
I've never read them, but the fact someone told me part of the dialogue went like this -- "Sorry," [character] apologised, has put me off forever.
That's just ridiculous.