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Help! I'm stuck on this. :( Can someone help me out by giving me feedback on this. It's due Tuesday! Here's the topic. By the way, this talks about abortion. If you don't want to read this, then please don't review it. Edit! Thanks Skins for reviewing! I don't need a review anymore because I already have most of it done. All I need now is the intro and conclusion. :)
Select some element of Warren's argument for the morality of abortion with which you disagree, and respond critically. Include a clear explanation of her overall view.
This is undergoing edits, but please review! You'll probably see something that I didn't think of.
In her paper, “On the Moral and Legal Status of Abortion”, Mary Anne Warren argues that killing a fetus is permissible because a fetus is not a person. Warren gives five criteria that she uses in characterizing what a person is. The first criterion is that a person has to have consciousness of both objects and events that occur outside the body and/or objects and events that occur inside the body, and they must have ability to feel pain. Her second criterion is that they must have reasoning which she defines as being able to solve new and complex problems. Her third criterion talks about self-motivated activity, meaning activity that is not genetically or externally controlled. Her fourth criterion talks about how a person must be able to communicate in whatever form. She also says that they must be able to communicate many messages, not just one message in many forms. Her fifth criterion talks about self-concepts and how people must have self-awareness. She says the awareness can be of themselves or of their species. She says that one can determine who are people just by looking at the either of the first two criteria, meaning that they may be sufficient to determine what personhood is by themselves. Warren argues that the fetus does not have any of the five criteria and that since it does not, it is not a person. 1 In this paper I hope to show that Warren’s first criterion may be satisfied by the fetus.
Warren admits that a fetus of seven or eight months is “somewhat more person like” than a fetus in the first stages of development 2She says that it can feel and respond to pain and that it might have a primitive form of consciousness . However, she also says that the fetus cannot reason or communicate, is not self-aware and does not have self-motivated activity.3 I believe that she is correct about the fetus being unable to reason or communicate . I believe that she is also correct about the fetus not being self-aware or having self-motivation. However, I believe that there is a problem with her first criterion of personhood. Warren states that to be a person, one must be able to feel pain and be conscious of events and objects external and/or internal to the body4. If the fetus can feel pain, does that not mean that it is aware of the external world? In this case the womb. The fetus may not know exactly what happened to cause it pain, but it knows that something happened. The fetus may not know exactly what the object is, but it does know that there is something causing it pain. The fetus knows that the event, the feeling of pain, happened. The fetus, also, knows that something, the object, caused it that pain. It may not know the precise dimensions or what the object actually looks like, but it does have the awareness of the object.
In her first criterion of personhood, Warren states that a person must have consciousness of objects and events external and/or internal to the body. However, she does not define consciousness or explain how consciousness should be measured. In her paper, Warren gives examples of who she considers not to be people. She uses the words “appreciable mental capacity” when describing what she calls “defective human beings.”5 How much is appreciable though? What Warren considers as appreciable may be different than what someone else considers as appreciable. For example, someone may think that “appreciable mental capacity” might mean that even though that human may not be able to do advanced mathematics, build a bridge, or anything else that requires higher thinking, if they are able to do the basic things in life, such as communicating in someway, feeling pain, etc then they have “appreciable mental capacity.” However, someone else may think that having “appreciable mental capacity” means being able to do advanced mathematics, build bridges, or anything else that requires higher level thinking. My point is that, without knowing Warren's idea of “appreciable mental capacity,” we do not know whether that being is truly a person or not.
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Im so sorry I didn't review this when I said I would... I hadn't realised what the time was and before I was abale to review this, I really needed to go to bed... Anyway, I'm here now, so it's all good!

In her paper, “On the Moral and Legal Status of Abortion”, Mary Anne Warren argues that killing a fetus is permissible because a fetus is not a person. Warren gives five criteria that she uses in characterizing what a person is. The first criterion is that a person has to have consciousness of both objects and events that occur outside the body and/or objects and events that occur inside the body, and they must have ability to feel pain. Her second criterion is that they must have reasoning which she defines as being able to solve new and complex problems. Her third criterion talks about self-motivated activity, meaning activity that is not genetically or externally controlled. Her fourth criterion talks about how a person must be able to communicate in whatever form. She also says that they must be able to communicate many messages, not just one message in many forms. Her fifth criterion talks about self-concepts and how people must have self-awareness. She says the awareness can be of themselves or of their species. She says that one can determine who are people just by looking at the either of the first two criteria, meaning that they may be sufficient to determine what personhood is by themselves. Warren argues that the fetus does not have any of the five criteria and that since it does not, it is not a person. 1. In this paper I hope to show that Warren’s first criterion may be satisfied by the fetus.

It's great that you've included the content of what Mary Ane Warren has said in this paragraph, but as a whole, I find that the paragraph itself is rather daunting to look at. I'd sugest cutting it up into more than one paragraph. Maybe you could have a paragraph for each one? Or maybe one paragraph for the first two criteria, and another for the last three? It's up to you, but I'd suggest cutting this into more than one paragraph. I have ot say though, overall, your amar and spellign is very good here.

Warren admits that a fetus of seven or eight months is “somewhat more person like” than a fetus in the first stages of development. 2.Space hereShe says that it can feel and respond to pain and that it might have a primitive form of consciousnessNo space here. However, she also says that the fetus cannot reason or communicate, is not self-aware and does not have self-motivated activity.Spae here3. I believe that she is correct about the fetus being unable to reason or communicateNo s[ace here. I believe that she is also correct about the fetus not being self-aware or having self-motivation. However, I believe that there is a problem with her first criterion of personhood. Warren states that to be a person, one must be able to feel pain and be conscious of events and objects external and/or internal to the body. 4. If the fetus can feel pain, does that not mean that it is aware of the external world? In this case the womb. The fetus may not know exactly what happened to cause it pain, but it knows that something happened. The fetus may not know exactly what the object is, but it does know that there is something causing it pain. The fetus knows that the event, the feeling of pain, happened. The fetus, also, knows that something, the object, caused it that pain. It may not know the precise dimensions or what the object actually looks like, but it does have the awareness of the object.

In her first criterion of personhood, Warren states that a person must have consciousness of objects and events external and/or internal to the body. However, she does not define consciousness or explain how consciousness should be measured. In her paper, Warren gives examples of who she considers not to be people. She uses the words “appreciable mental capacity” when describing what she calls “defective human beings.”Space here5. How much is appreciable though? What Warren considers as appreciable may be different than what someone else considers as appreciable. For example, someone may think that “appreciable mental capacity” might mean that even though that human may not be able to do advanced mathematics, build a bridge, or anything else that requires higher thinking, if they are able to do the basic things in life, such as communicating in someway, feeling pain, etc then they have “appreciable mental capacity.” However, someone else may think that having “appreciable mental capacity” means being able to do advanced mathematics, build bridges, or anything else that requires higher level thinking. My point is that, without knowing Warren's idea of “appreciable mental capacity,” we do not know whether that being is truly a person or not.



Overall

Before I get onto my overall opinion, I want to apologise in advance for any typo's or misspellings in this. I'm o my mum's dodgy latop wih no spell checker, so I doubt I'l notice my typo's... Anyway, I like debatable subjects because... Well, they're debatable. As a whole, I think you have a good arguement here, so well done for that. One tHing tht especially caught my eyes was your grammar and spelling actually. You used those two thign very well in this. I did find a little issue with paragraphing, but it isn't anthing you can't fix or sort out. You clearly stated what Warren thinks of the subject, so well done for making that clear.

The only grammatical thing that bothered me, besides the slght paragraphign issue, was the numbering thing. Although I very much lked the idea of numbering five points, just lke Warren, it came across as awkward because of the way you set it out. If I were you, I'd actually start a new paragraph for every one of your points. By doing that, you won't only be solving the numbering awkwardness, but the paragraphing issue as well. It's just that you have three rather big clumps of writing when you could have less, more flowing paragraphs. There are plenty of areas where you could start new paragraphs in this, so read over it, and maybe edit it up a little.

When it comes to the content I do have one suggestion. Although you give us a ton of information about Warren's opinion and facts on the subject, we don't hear much about your opinion. You let some of it slip through, but I think I'd like to see more of your opinion in the piece as a whole. I'm not 100% sure if you actually agree with Warren or not, to be honest. By expressing your opinion more and making it clearer, I won't be unsure about what you think overall. There's not much more I can add really. Just don't be afraid to really express your opinion on the matter. You've got the facts, now show the more flexible side of things. ;)

I'm sorry I haven't been an awful amount of help with this. Essay's aren't my strong point when it comes to reviewing, btu I hope I've somewhat helped you out a little.

Keep writing,

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Thanks Skins! I'm attempting to show that Warren's first criterion may apply to the fetus. I'm not sure if it can, but I think it might. My professor said that opinion's good, but that we should be making the argument based on what's in the paper. So, I'm trying to use facts and things that I can show that are in the paper. She said not to use any other sources.
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I don't need reviews anymore. Thanks Skins! You really are super! :D
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