Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse

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I read the first chapter in the store of Twilight and the first chapter of New Moon on her website. I'm probably going to read it soon (it's checked out in my library currently) for extra credit. The extra credit assignment is to check out the book from the library, read it, and take a test from the librarian. So it's pretty popular at the moment.




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I read all three, and even though I can't quite say that I loved them, I'm dying to read the continuation.

It was a friend who pulled me in, borrowing me a translatin of "Twilight". I got hooked, ordered the second book, borrowed it to the friend, becuase its translation wasn't out, and then waited, waited, and waited with the friend for the third. Which sucked, because when the third came out, so did the second, (Polish translation). Good thing she was good at English, or she would have killed me because I would have read it and not she. xD

I admit that I had a thing for Edward. *Blushes* He's still cute, but way to perfect. So is Bella, even though she goes on and on about how imperfect she is to Edward. *Sighs* Seriously, they were great book that really drew me in, and if only the main cast wasn't that perfect, the book would be perfect, too. As it was, I split up with Edward (lol) cause he was so perfect, and got angry with Bella because of her no-personality policy when she's around Edward. I mean, she could have screamed at him the tiniest bit at the end of Book Two (no spoilers, yes?). But, no. No, oh no, never. Only in "Eclipse" did she get some backbone, so woots for that.

It also would have been cool if there had been more about the lesser characters. I mean, in "Eclipse" for obvious reasons (to those who read it!) it OK. Jasper, and go, Rosalie. But before that, they weren;t much. Just names. Also, there could have been more about Alice - Alice was awesome.

Whew. Read it.




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Oh, and I wanted to add that teh snippet from Edward's POV (when he left Bella), was horrible. Truly made me wonder if that's how it looks before it goes to the editors...




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I adored the first book, but I was sort of disappointed by the second and third. I found the first book to be refreshing and delicious, and I'll willingly admit that I love Edward. I really enjoyed the way Meyer dealt with the whole idea of vampires. Plus, the chase at the end was awesome. I guess the second book was ok, but it didn't enchant me like the first one (I blame the lack of Edward :P). The third = GAH. Bella was one of the weakest, greediest, most stubborn and ungrateful protagonists I've ever had to endure reading a whole book about. Not to mention how mopey she is. If and when she becomes a vampire, I shudder to think what aspects of her personality will get amplified. Maybe she'll be able to drown an entire city using only her tear ducts. ^_~




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(Lilyyyyyyy! You're back! ~ eleinasari, here. Haven't seen you for ages and ages!)

Ekhm. Just wanted to say that I agree about adoring the first ad being dissapointed afterwards. However, I recently tried reading it again (the first book) and have to say with shame that it was okay, only okay, and that excluding the parts with Edward. Oh, but yes, you should see Paulina's (the friend's) reaction to the Edwardless Book Two.

Oh, and the third book. The epilogue. It creeped me out, because I didn't really notice the 'Jacob' tag, and thought it was (at the very begining) from Bella's POV, after she changed into a vamp. Unsettling, really, the dreams, I mean. But what I wanted to say is that I don't know form where the epilogue from Black's POV came from. No, really, it's nice and all, but...




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Although I have to say Meyer gives the goods, I wouldn't go so far to add that these books are the best. They're...the pop revelation of the year, and if not the half-decade. Bella's not the greatest heroine ever. If anything, she's more like the Forksians than she realizes.

Jacob is, by far, the most credible character in the book (not that credibility is something you should look for in this particular series), and the most likable. I am sufficiently more drawn to him than the stiff Edward (can't he ever loosen up for once? act like an annoying person?), who obviously is meant to be perfect, but there's two things that happen with perfect: it bores you, or it gets on your nerves. Bella wuoldn't have given Edward ANYTHING if he wasn't so beautiful. Personally, SM seems to holds a bias against ordinary people, and I think she has this fantasy that all beautiful people are fascinating. Sure, it's nice to hang around beautiful people and everything, but I think she's sending a message that looks are a (no, the) key point in a relationship.

I'm also not looking forward to the movie. Look at Anne Rice: marvelous author, dreadful movies.

Anyway, most of the time it's easy to get over Bella and her obvious easiness (she's the girl who could get robbed if a guy is hot enough) and concentrate on how well Meyer writes. That's her problem, though: she's made everyone so perfect we realize how utterly IMperfect Bella is.

Maybe I'm just turned off by the series now because my sister's nuts about it. I always tend to dump things once my sister starts to like it (thank GOD she didn't like Judd Apatow's movies OR Avenue Q!), not that I was ever that crazy about the series to begin with. If anything, I only read it to catch up on the newest literary trend. I was more satisfied this summer when I read Harry Potter (Twilight can never be the next Harry Potter--too pointed toward the female sex).

I love it, but I can still see the patches that keep it firmly on 'teenage fad' and not 'epic romance'.
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The perfect guy ever Edward+Jasper+Emmet+Jacob.

The end of Eclipse is quite depressing isn't it?

I love the whole concept of two amazing guys falling for one ordinary girl. We determined she was ordinary at book club today, we also determined that I'm Bella at heart, which is backwards because my best friend's name is Bella and my name is Alice.

My three random thoughts about the series, now the not so random one I love these books!
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Hmm, I don't know why I read the whole series exactly. I don't really like it. It's just so...bland. I like romances (when I read them) where the characters meet, become friends, and fall in love, and even though each of them has flaws they seem perfect to each other. With Bella and Edward it's just touch-and-go, almost literally. Even Romeo and Juliet's love was more plausible because neither of them were perfect. Romeo had tendancies to neglect thinking things through (like how he simply climbed into the Capulet's courtyard) and Juliet spent a whole seliloque thinking about what would happen if the plan went wrong (if she woke up in the tomb and Romeo wasn't there, if the potion killed her, etc.). Edward is "perfect," and to me that makes him unintersting.
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author13 wrote:The perfect guy ever Edward+Jasper+Emmet+Jacob.

The end of Eclipse is quite depressing isn't it?

I love the whole concept of two amazing guys falling for one ordinary girl. We determined she was ordinary at book club today, we also determined that I'm Bella at heart, which is backwards because my best friend's name is Bella and my name is Alice.

My three random thoughts about the series, now the not so random one I love these books!


Ahh! Bella and Alice! How cool is that?! :D

Anyway...Eclipse was really depressing. [spoiler]I hated the whole thing with Jacob and Bella. Why couldn't they have just stayed friends? I really think Bella would have so much better off if she'd never realized that she loved Jacob. Sure, Jacob felt better once she realized it, but Bella was really hurt. But did Jacob think about that? No! You know why? Because he's a stupid, selfish immature dog! Edward would never have done or said anything to Bella that he knew would hurt her. Ugh!

Sorry. I can't talk about the dog without getting angry. *sighs and takes deep, calming breaths* lol.
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ohh goodness I can't agree more. I have a guy friend that did that to his best friend, she was dating this way cool guy, and then he just pops up and says that he likes her. And then he got all mad when she didn't dump the other guy, and then their friendship just kinda went a part. But I have to agree Edward is seriously the perfect guy ever.
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You know, I never saw what the big freakin' deal was about this whole series. They're the classic angsty romance, weak-heroine-gets-her-chestnuts-pulled-out-of-the-fire-a-thousand-times-by-annoying-males-who-send-her-into-spinning-depressions-because-they-are-just-so-darn-perfect kind of books. Who really needs that? Aren't there enough weak females in books? Why are the guys always the competent ones?

Give me a headstrong girl who's not afraid to kick a guy's butt no matter how hot he is any day of the week. (Believe it or not, there are books like that. Like Sammy Keyes! Woo!)

And who didn't see the lame-o proposal of Edward McVamperson to Bella the Weakling coming to tie things up? It's so... nicely plotted and convenient. So cute, so sweet, so sickeningly happy-ending.

Gag me.




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I don't think Edward is perfect, however I do think it seems that way to the readers who are of course reading it from Bella's perspective and of course Bella sees Edward as perfect.

Don't get me wrong, Edward is a gentleman and he is very mature, but I think that's justified considering he is a 100+ year old vampire AND has the power to read minds. I also think it's sad though on Edward's part, for all his siblings to have their significant others and Edward to be the loner of the family. That's why Midnight Sun will prove interesting to me, I think Edward's perspective will be refreshing and we can take an interesting view of the story.

To me, Alice is my favorite character. I am okay with Jacob, I think Jacob and Bella is far more interesting than Edward and Bella, but I do want to see Bella turn into a vampire so that's why I'm all for the ship.
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JackBauerHasABaldSpot wrote:Jacob is, by far, the most credible character in the book (not that credibility is something you should look for in this particular series), and the most likable. I am sufficiently more drawn to him than the stiff Edward (can't he ever loosen up for once? act like an annoying person?), who obviously is meant to be perfect, but there's two things that happen with perfect: it bores you, or it gets on your nerves. Bella wuoldn't have given Edward ANYTHING if he wasn't so beautiful. Personally, SM seems to holds a bias against ordinary people, and I think she has this fantasy that all beautiful people are fascinating. Sure, it's nice to hang around beautiful people and everything, but I think she's sending a message that looks are a (no, the) key point in a relationship.
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Woo-hoo! You go girl!
That's my opinion exactly. Jacob is the most interesting character b/c he's a REAL character. He gets angry and fights with Bella and says stupid things and is insecure and selfish. He's also sweet and caring and in love and extremely selfless sometimes. Edward, on the other hand, is a fantasy that basically makes girls think that somewhere there is a perfect guy who will always let them have their way and never fight with them even when he's mad. Which is bullcrap.

All that to say - Go Jacob! I'm rooting for you! Win Bella back and have all sorts of cute little werewolf cubs! :D
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I agree with lyrical_sunshine :D
At first I was like 'Wow, Edward sounds real neat.' But as the series progressed I began to think things like, 'No one can be that perfect. It just doesn't happen and- I hate how he's always so cold and controlled.'
Jacob, on the other hand, is a very believable character. He loses his head, he does some stupid thing, but so what? f Edward would just get off his high horse for a second, he might do things like that too. Also, I've always liked Werewolves more than Vampires. The vamps. are always so seductive and frozen, while I always think that wolves are raw and beautiful and full of emotion and burning pride. Much more interesting...
So yeah, basically, I really wish Bella would just choose Jacob.
Then maybe she would become a werewolf! *is excited* I wonder what she would look like...?
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I love Jacob, and Edward, and Jasper....You have to love all those guys don't you? Stephenie Meyer spent a lot of time developing those characters, and not enough time on Bella. Or so the sponsor of my book club says. But thats the point of Bella isn't it? The whole concept? Two amazingly wonderful guys falling for one very ordinary girl.

Is it not?
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