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  • I've written about 5k in Fairytale today (now at ~56k), and I think I'm going to call it a day. I actually really like what I've figured out for restructuring it. Basically, I'm going to leave the "book" itself intact, doing my ending and my in-character afterword and all of that BUT THEN READERS WILL TURN THE PAGE AND REALIZE THE BOOK'S NOT OVER.

    This excerpt is probably the most meta thing I've ever written, but I think it works great. I also think this device (as well as the other Angie POV chapter earlier in the book) does a good job at keeping tonal consistency with AoY. By rough definition, these are both epistolary novels anyway.

    (The person she's emailing is Ryan. I'm going to have to figure out how to figure out the optics of ending on his POV, but it doesn't quite work the same way if he just is another talking head. He has such a presence in AoY imo despite only being mentioned, and same with this). I'll figure out a way to concisely wrap. it up, but what's taking shape is not only a completely unique story but it expands the world in so many ways I'm SO excited about.

    Can't wait to see where this one leads me and hopefully I won't have to do 15+ drafts. But this is also my second REAL novel, so I'm hoping my process will only get smoother as I go. And you know, the first book does well enough as that this is something people are going to be interested in.

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  • Ah YOU GUYS! I redid the Fairytale cover to make it more aligned with the AoY one. I was a little concerned on how to do this because I knew I wanted this to be photographic, like an actual biography that could have been published/written in the 2020s. BUT I also wanted it to align with AoY's purposefully abstract one but still make it clear it's a part of the same series.

    This is obviously subject to change at such an early stage, but I kind of looove this and I can't wait to get my boring work done so I can finally dive into edits. (I attached the AoY one for reference!)

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  • Also Tim of StoryGrid has such a weird hate for NaNoWriMo. It's the end of February and he's still dragging it and people who do it in his videos.

    What did NaNoWriMo ever do to you, Tim?!

    Snoink He's jealous, lol.
    Feb 24, 2024

    Elinor So, his villain origin story here I guess that he won NaNo three times and all of the books sucked so he trashed them.

    Where I take issue is where he tries to say it's a waste of time for EVERYONE who even tries.

    Feb 24, 2024

  • Donna Tartt is example A of why it's not always a good idea for writers to narrate their own audiobooks.

    Other than the fact that Donna, who is a 60 year old woman and sounds like it, does not match the voice of her 20 year old male narrator, she uses nails on a chalkboard voices for every character that are not an ounce as clever as she thinks they are.

    She gives a character that dies the most ANNOYING voice to the point I was begging for that character to die (not a spoiler, we learn that this will happen on the first page) we didn't have to hear it anymore.

    Yet Donna brings the exact same voice back for that character's father that's introduced last stage. Gahhhh.

    This book is so frustrating to me because there are parts that are really good, and I was convinced I was reading a new favorite in the first few chapters. And it's probably going to end up middling for me when all is said and done.

    I never write Goodreads reviews, but there's a lot I have to say about this one.

  • Last night, I went to an artist open mic where I read an excerpt from AoY. It was nerve-wracking because there were a lot of musicians in the crowd, and I went at a prime time in the night too.

    As soon as I got up there all the nerves disappeared. I always compare stuff like this to the slow crawl up a rollercoaster, and then after the first drop it's just fun. People loved and it felt great, and the fact that I had a room full of strangers just for a page was a good feeling.

    But the biggest takeaway was that I have a great voice for this and people would listen the heck out of me doing the audiobook.

    And yeah. ☺️ It's fun. Can't wait to get this thing out into the world.

  • The solution to the Ryan issue in Fairytale, as well as the fact that the book abruptly ends without much conflict as we get into the 2000s, came to me suddenly today.

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    The narrative of the story ends in 2000 with Cole's debut. And I feel like there's so much more to cover in the AoY timeline that I just didn't go over because I didn't want to repeat the same events twice.

    He declines to participate in the interview at first because he wants to protect his and Olive's daughter, and I still think he would do this. I've tried to include is POV through third party sources, which I can still do, but the other issue is that he's still flat and feels like a manic pixie dream boy without much of his own agency. SO. What I think I'm going to do, is have Olive wrap her interview with Angie in 2000, then the next chapter reveals Angie gets an email from Ryan because he's ready to talk. I'll reveal that Olive was the one that changed his mind about doing it, as they'd still be in regular communication because of their daughter and by this point things would be amicable between them.

    Then I go into his perspective. The narrative is more full that way and Ryan feels like an actual character, AND it'll add to AoY if we know what's going on in Olive's life beyond the very limited context that Marcy would have.

    I can't wait to dive in this weekend, but the vibes of wanting to quit my day job and be a full time creator are still very strong.

  • Finally getting back into The Secret History and I clocked Richard as bi fairly early on based on his narrations/interactions with another specific male character (there's a moment in one of the few chapters where their shoulders brush and the feeling "lingers" with him and he also admits to feeling "butterflies" (phrased differently, but that's essentially what he means) around this particular character) and SURE ENOUGH.

    I wish I could show you guys the passage but I'm listening to the audiobook. The one thing I will say is this book is probably going to end up as a 6/10 because it has some significant issues that really bring down its quality for me-- which is unfortunate because in the first couple of chapters I was convinced I was reading a new favorite.

    The one thing she does really well is Richard's voice. I really feel like I know this character and have a sense of who he is as a person, which isn't always easy to do. But there's more good then bad, it's better than TaTaT, and I'll probably have more thoughts once I get to the end.

  • I love how Greta Gerwig's final response to the Oscars controversy was literally "...But I am nominated."

    I got in a fight with my stepmom about this a couple weeks ago, where she was like "if it was you and your movie got a bunch of nominations but you didn't get director how would you feel"

    And I said "I'd be honored my movie was being recognized at the Oscars"

    Anyway, it's really hard to get an Oscar nomination it's the most prestigious award in the industry for a reason, and the controversy is still silly.


  • Officially booked my audiobook recording trip in Sedona for the end of May. That means I've officially given myself a hard deadline.

    LFG! All Our Yesterdays is happening!

  • I posted this in Threads and I shouldn't have been surprised but I got overwhelming response, and I probably should have specified the style I was looking for, now I feel bad I can't hire everyone RIP.

    Just sharing here in the hopes that some of you can hire these artists to commission your characters!

    herbalhour elinor what have you done you've summoned a horde of artists!!
    Feb 21, 2024

    Elinor I knooow
    Feb 21, 2024

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  • The moment Cole shows up at the very end of Fairytale always makes me go "dude what you are doing here?!?" I do love my moody little son, his Romeo complex and all. 🩷

    But I have SO many notes for this next rewrite after the listen-through. It's going to be a great novel and I love how, in spite of being a completely different story while still seamlessly being set in the same world with overlap in characters and themes.

    Something I'm most excited about is expanding the role of the Golds and Olive's tour as their opener. I love how, in present day, Kerry's forgiven Cole for what he did to her and her brothers are still like "yeah, no, we just don't like him"

    It's all fun and I can't wait to see where this book takes me.

  • Literally Cole whenever the name Kerry Gold comes up


  • Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow was... a book. I would give it 2 stars.

    I get why people like it and there were definitely moments where it resonated, and considering tonal similarities I'm glad I finished it. This might be one of those books I dislike more the more I think about it, but we'll see.

    My main qualm is the pacing and just how hard to follow all the jumps forward and back in time were. We also take too many detours to spend time with side characters who don't matter. That was my problem with A Tree Grows in Brooklyn and why I DNFed.

    You guys have no idea how many times I screamed "alright, let's get on with it!" And I ended up finishing just because I put my audiobook on 2.5x speed. I have the same issue with it that I've been starting to have with The Secret History, where I think the story is good but the writing is bad.

    At least TSH's main character has a voice, and I'm never confused as to what's going on, I just think some of the page time could be better well spent. Things feel like they're breezing along quite quickly and it's 200 pages longer than TaTaT.

    The last chapter is probably the best one of the book and I'm not saying that to be ironic, things wrap up nicely but the issue is that none of it feels earned.
    I also never connected to the characters because they never really struggle with anything. Everything comes easily to them, and thus, they are difficult to relate to. And Sadie has to be one of most insufferable main characters I've ever read. I understand she's going through trauma, but she is not a good person and the author wants us to think that she is. There's so many times where she's mean for the sake of being mean and the author always wants us to think she's in the right.

    There's a lot more I could say, but I'm just glad it's over, and the 1 and 2 star reviews on Goodreads do a good job of summing my thoughts of everything wrong with the book. I think it really just needed a stronger editor.

    It'll be really interesting too see what will be done with a film adaptation, because things will have to be cut and I think it will be to the story's benefit.

    Anyway, I remember being worried when I first heard about the book because of our similar titles, themes, settings and plot points, I have nothing to worry bout. The author also prints the monologue in full, but the context is much different. One thing I do like that illustrates the difference between our two stories is that "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" makes sense for title because it is thematically focused on tomorrow being another day, on starting fresh, and mine is about how our past defines us and leads us on our journey of life.

    It is a bit annoying that we both included productions of Twelfth Night too, but I almost feel like she and I both got an assignment that was like:

    Write a novel with the following instructions:

    - Take the title from some part of Macbeth's "All Our Yesterdays" soliloquy and print it in full at some point in the story
    - Set it in the 90s and follow two main characters from their late teens until their 40s in present day.
    - Have it deal with some aspect of the entertainment industry
    - Also include; a production of Twelfth Night and a scene where the MCs almost lose their life

    ... And these are the directions we went. I'm sad I didn't like it more. But man I've been in such a reading slump lately.

    Time to finish TSH and we'll see where things will go next.

    Also, I just want to be a full-time creator, and put my stories out into the world. Is that too much to ask? :(

  • Work: today is a holiday so you can work if you want but none of us will be around


  • #RandomDramaticLines

    “You lied about you two just being friends. Then, when you were almost beaten up by her brothers, you still lied!”

Be steadfast as a tower that doth not bend its stately summit to the tempest’s shock.
— Dante Alighieri