Progressives & Anti-Facists of YWS

Progressives & Anti-Facists of YWS

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  • brisingr521
    brisingr521 · May 2
    I'm asking because I'm curious, What is yall's opinion on ICE? I'm personally nuetral so far because I don't look into politics a whole lot. But from what I've seen, I tend to agree with alot of conservative views. And hello I've been gone for a while.

    serrodyne replied · May 2

    idk becuase we're a coalition but personally, abolish end concentration camps, and fold into the rest of the legal operations into DHS, which needs a huge restructuring. i don't think we need a gestapo-ish force that more and more deviates from its original purpose as an enforcement agency to serve as the president's own militia, which given recent executive orders it is increasingly becoming an extrajudicial organization that comes after any minority group that dares stand against this admin and is also mostly consisted of untrained skinheads (shows under 48 hr training, which is unacceptable for law enforcement). dhs should handle criminal, not civil cases (i.e. if someone is fleeing the law by coming into the US or intends to commit crimes in the US)


    serrodyne replied · May 2

    it's also worth noting that we caused the immigrant crisis by either refusing to interfere or interfering too much with LATAM & Middle Eastern affairs (country dependent)


    serrodyne replied · May 2

    there's a pretty well documented trend of extremist groups like the proud boys or US white nationalists promoting & joining ice bc they have put out tons of white supremacist-inspired propaganda (there's an online archive somewhere)


    Razor replied · Oct 7

    Honestly, ICE is a product of the aftermath of 9/11. Before 9/11, ICE didn't really exist in the capacity it does today. The war on terror began an endless cycle of meddling in the middle east, which we had already been doing before 9/11 happened. And because of that meddling, we had a spike of migration to our borders, and we were like "holy crap that's a lot of middle eastern people who we think of as terrorists because racial stereotypes" and so ICE became much more militarized. They've evolved from strictly a border force to something much scarier and much wider. They've received a budget that is equivalent to that of a small military force. That's way more than your average big city police department like the NYPD gets. That, with the lack of training and even worse background checks (We have multiple cases of agents who are seen being violent being identified as being involved in domestic abuse, sexual abuse, ect. These people should never be hired as law enforcment if they can't even control themselves around their own wives). This and the fact that they can't seem to follow proper law enforcement protocols like not standing directly in front of a vehicle (something cops are told NEVER to do) during a traffic stop or shooting at a moving vehicle (shooting at a moving vehicle places bystanders in harms way of gunfire but also a vehicle). I'd also like to not have the detention centers (some privately run by contractors like geogroup) that are currently operating be shut down or put under heavy oversite from a non-dhs affiliated board. Phone booth sized cages is inhumane. Not to mention lack of food, water, working bathroom facilities, heat, blankets, ect.



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