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(don't do it)(please do it)

by Willard


i.
"Willard, you're getting so thin!"

the tapeworms whisper in my ear.
Double text after double text
about how I'm dependent when
it's a time for independence.
Also about how I have feelings
for girls, ideas, and drugs,
but forget about that.

ii.
"Tell her your feelings, Willard!"
the electrical socket says
as I shove a violet crayon
perfectly through its
six holes.

I slept on the couch that night,
phone on my chest,
Ginger Ale on the floor.

They said I need motivation,
but I just need something.


     iii.

My brain is decorated with Cars lyrics
because I DON'T MIND YOU COMING HERE
AND  WASTING ALL  MY TIME
CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE STANDING OH SO--

Everything is just a text,
a friendly phrase,
or spiritual seppuku.
I'd listen to your problems,
I really would,
but I forget you're human too.

iv.
I'd hear  you out for once,
to not be so down
or be so bummed about my life,

 but if I can't can't
 wear black and sleep in,
 I wouldn't get your hopes up.

              v.

I thought about getting my tie
stuck in a lawnmower, but
that'd be pathetic.
My hand fits perfectly
down the bowling ball chute,
but it's not about the size of the ship
(they all say)
it's the motion of the ocean

or how fast I shove it down there.

finale.

When frogs go extinct,
flies will cover our bodies.
I'll leave my chest exposed
so they can crawl right in.




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Well, I will be reviewing this one as you asked me to.

To begin with, I've read this poem over and over again. And there are some general features that I really found interesting. Like the formatting of the poem, it was really satisfying, and the explosion of the figures of speech throughout the poem was stupendous.

However, there are some points that I would like to draw your attention to.

"the tapeworms whisper in my ear.
Double text after double text
about how I'm dependent when
it's a time for independence.
Also about how I have feelings
for girls, ideas, and drugs,
but forget about that."

Starting with that part of the first stanza. After you illustrated to the readers a solid yet revolting personification with the tapeworms whispering and the very strong statement that it's time for independence, you wrote some incredibly weak lines that deteriorated the artistic value of the whole stanza. Which were:
"Also about how I have feelings
for girls, ideas, and drugs,
but forget about that."

ii.
"Tell her your feelings, Willard!"
the electrical socket says
as I shove a violet crayon
perfectly through its
six holes.

I slept on the couch that night,
phone on my chest,
Ginger Ale on the floor.

They said I need motivation,
but I just need something."

This whole part is abysmal by all means, and I will tell you why. Although you've been creative enough to come up with a figurative where Willard shoves a violet crayon perfectly through the electrical socket's holes, I'm guessing to shut it up, but the image you painted doesn't qualify to be anything. I mean, yes poetry is art and I would like to observe your poems as abstract paintings which I'm sure that you would me to and am guessing if you were a painter yourself you'd have been an abstract painter. However, there's a very fine, yet very clear line between abstract art and distortion. Unfortunately, I don't think this image you illustrated qualifies to be some sort of abstract art but it's rather a group of random words put together meaninglessly.

Sleeping on the couch with a phone on your chest and a ginger ale on the floor waiting for something isn't considered as poetry. It's not categorized as narrative poetry and it's the furthest it could ever be from satire. It's simply a boring line in a book, except that in a book it might signify to something meaningful.

"Everything is just a text,
a friendly phrase,
or spiritual seppuku.
I'd listen to your problems,
I really would,
but I forget you're human too."

This part is my very well written. I like it a lot. This time, you nailed abstraction. But then in the next two parts...

iv.
I'd hear you out for once,
to not be so down
or be so bummed about my life,

but if I can't can't
wear black and sleep in,
I wouldn't get your hopes up.

v.

I thought about getting my tie
stuck in a lawnmower, but
that'd be pathetic.
My hand fits perfectly
down the bowling ball chute,
but it's not about the size of the ship
(they all say)
it's the motion of the ocean

Well, to begin with, those two parts which were written in a totally different style that contradicts the other parts. I don't remotely relate to anything you wrote earlier by reading those parts. I don't relate to anything really! You, again categorized your poem as a satire. However, I really doubt that you understand what satire poems are. Satire is a form of poetry that poets use to criticize the corruption of an individual or a society. More importantly, USING irony, humor or exaggeration. So please help me by pointing out how is this considered as a satire, given the brief accurate definition of it.


"When frogs go extinct,
flies will cover our bodies.
I'll leave my chest exposed
so they can crawl right in."

Finally, I really like that part a lot. I can see the abstract portrait you successfully painted. Optimism or pessimism, it doesn't concern me, in fact, I like to think of it as a heroic act that you would save humanity by maintaining the natural balance of the universe whilst you sacrifice yourself. And that's the point of abstract art, it's objective and meaningful.


I really hope my review is helpful to you. Keep on writing :)


Regards,
YD




Willard says...


Thanks for the review!

Those words aren't just "randomly put together", I appreciate that thought though. It shows experimentation and overall being bored with what life has to offer, also mocking the thought of suicide (i.e instead of putting a fork in the socket you put a crayon. You're becoming tired of life, losing motivation, and becoming bored).

As for the satirical part, you did cite this to show how it's not satire.

More importantly, USING irony, humor or exaggeration.

Or exaggeration. My poem is meant to be read at face value, too. A kid shoving crayons into an electrical socket, fantasizing about putting their hand down a bowling chute, tapeworms, frogs going extinct. Those are all exaggerated and ridiculous. You talk about criticizing corruption of an individual or society, and in a sense, this is. Why the heck would a teen do this? I'm minimizing THEIR (in this case mine) problems by making them overblown.

Accurate? Eh. Abstract art is subjective, though. Sometimes you can like it, sometimes you can't.

I do understand what satire is, and eventually it became satire of itself.

Thanks once again for the review.



YDRyan says...


I'm afraid you still got it all wrong. I'd highly recommend you do some research on satire.

Regarding abstract art!!! Seriously, the whole world been arguing about the difference between abstract art and NON objective art! Books were written, people lived and died arguing that abstract art it totally different that non-objective art!!!! with a simple google search about abstract art, this will pop up: http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/THR5NNIJ1DSN9HCTM

I suggest you read it.



YDRyan says...


Also here's a website to help you with satire poetry. I really think you should read some of the most famous satire poems. This is one of my favorites:

http://www.poetrysoup.com/famous/poem/7 ... _of_europe



Willard says...


I don't have it wrong. I'm sorry. You're not giving me any reason why. I understand the concept of satire and I decide how I want to portray it. Please don't insult my knowledge of it or anything like that. I know it's not perfect but I'm not unknowledgable like it seems like you're suggesting.



Willard says...


I don't have it wrong. I'm sorry. You're not giving me any reason why. I understand the concept of satire and I decide how I want to portray it. Please don't insult my knowledge of it or anything like that. I know it's not perfect but I'm not unknowledgable like it seems like you're suggesting.



Willard says...


I don't have it wrong. I'm sorry. You're not giving me any reason why. I understand the concept of satire and I decide how I want to portray it. Please don't insult my knowledge of it or anything like that. I know it's not perfect but I'm not unknowledgable like it seems like you're suggesting.



Willard says...


Also, if they're ARGUING about it, wouldn't that make it subjective?



YDRyan says...


Ok! firstly I quote myself "the whole world been arguing about the difference between abstract art and NON objective art! Books were written, people lived and died arguing that abstract art is totally different that non-objective art" So I already mentioned that it's an ongoing argument which you are clearly unaware off.

Secondly, in my review, I CLEARLY mentioned your points of strengths and weaknesses and I elaborated everything in details. It wasn't all negative and it wasn't all positive, but apparently you are not mature enough to accept criticism. And you are totally blinded by what "you think" is right without doing any effort to even consider that maybe even the smallest part of what I said could be right. Frankly, I have never seen an artist that closed-minded and am not willing to spend my night arguing with someone who thinks that it's either people tell him that he's good or they are wrong about everything.



YDRyan says...


unaware of*



Willard says...


I'm afraid you still got it all wrong.



YDRyan says...


Oh no! you check my replies on the reviews I got and you'll know I didn't :D



Willard says...


I'm afraid you still got it all wrong.



Willard says...


Rest in peace.



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Mon May 16, 2016 11:33 pm
StupidSoup says...



I don't get it. Not to say its bad. I'm just stupid.




Willard says...


blog/Strange/explaining_my_poetry_or_something_slightly_pretentious._b-62802.html

I really don't care if you don't get it, I don't need to know. If you want to know why, read that link.



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k o7



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I've been meaning to review this since the first time I read it, which was the day you posted this. Alas, real life has been trampling me, and I'm only getting to it now.

I'm going to talk about the whole poem in general, and then I'll talk stanza by stanza.

This is categorized under satire, which really always throws me off. It always makes me think about what is sincere and what is not in the poem, and if it's satire because it actually means the opposite, or if it's satire because... well, to be honest, I've always had a hard time with satire. So, uh, I'm going to operate as if I didn't know what genre you put it under. That's how it would appear in a literary magazine.

This looks like an exploration of coming of age with a hint of "romance" thrown in. It is all too common for someone's coming of age tale to be riddled with lukewarm relationships that seem to only bring both parties down. I like the progression and that you used the roman numerals to separate. Without them, I would feel like the stanzas would jump too quickly from one to another. The indent is also interesting, as if each stanza is an addition to the stanza before it. Like the feelings are all connected, but you couldn't cram everything you're feeling into one stanza. So you had to elaborate. And then you had to elaborate on that.

Was the extra spacing in between stanzas 2 and 3 intentional?

I like that you use the strikethroughs. It's a very modern aspect that sets it apart from a lot of other poetry. It shows what you're really thinking, but adds a secretive tone, like you don't necessarily want the audience to know what you're thinking.

Anyway, stanza i.
If I'm not mistaken, Strange, your name is Willard, so the first stanza sets up everything nicely. We get a real person (and know that this poem is at least semi-autobiographical), and a time (texting means modern to me).

Also about how I have feelings
I feel like the beginning of this line is clumsy. An afterthought. But we're in the first stanza, so I don't know if there should be afterthoughts yet. One way you could change this is to put a dash at the end of the previous line and omit "also." That way there's a pause, but not one where the narrator is distracted by something else and tacks on an also. If that makes sense?

I like the dependent when you should be independent line. Same.

Stanza ii.
The crayons and electrical socket made me Google "are crayons conductors?" The answer was that they are very poor conductors. This makes me wonder if the narrator is doing this out of want of stimulation? A very mild shock might be a joyride. Haha. Especially considering the narrator said he has feelings about drugs in the previous stanza, it leads me to believe he will do anything for a thrill. But maybe I'm reading too deeply into it. Maybe it means that he's doing something useless while people are telling him to do something he doesn't want to.

Ginger Ale on the floor.
I feel like a slightly more specific image is called for here. Is it a glass of ginger ale, or is it a puddle? It made me wonder enough to stop. I think both would be nice images. Also, I yearned for a stronger image for the floor. Instead of floor, you could easily say "carpet" or "tile" or "floorboards" to give us a bit more of a taste as to what the setting is.

The last two lines of the stanza lead me again to believe that the narrator is searching for something to make him feel alive. Maybe he is searching for this in the relationship mentioned (when I say relationship, I don't mean romantic, I just mean connection between these two people).

Stanza iii
I do not listen to this band. I understand your inclusion of them because of how the lyrics illustrate the relationship, but I think you could state it differently and with an image that is easier to relate to. I'm not sure what that image is right now, but I think it needs some tweaking at that part.

I noticed that there's a small point of view shift in this stanza. I don't think it's too bad, but a lot of people will tell you to keep the poem all in one point of view. I'm indifferent.

I really like "spiritual seppuku." Nice.

You have a rhyme between seppuku and too. Just thought I'd let you know in case you didn't want it there.

Stanza iv
but if I can't can't
I am actually usually a fan of the double negative. It describes things that positives can't. Like indifference. Here, I don't think it's working. I have stared at it every time I read this because the meaning just isn't functioning in my brain. I think this would be better if you said, "but if the only thing I can do"

I feel like this stanza's meaning is very closely connected to the previous stanza, which is something I can't find anywhere else in the poem. I feel like they should be the same stanza unless you change the first part of it a little bit. Or maybe the first part belongs with the previous stanza, but not the latter. I don't know.

Stanza v
And here we come to the despair that comes with wanting. I really like this stanza. I'm not sure why you need parentheses around "they all say." Or why you need that at all. I think the despair stands for itself without explanation of the pressures put on the narrator.

Spoiler! :
My cousin tripped over a lawnmower once and broke his arm. It was, indeed, pathetic.


finale.
I'll leave my chest exposed
so they can crawl right in.

Inside of the body? I'm not sure how flies would get in without an opening. I think that you should change the word "chest" to something more illustrative of despair. Perhaps "heart," or "wounds."

Otherwise, I like this stanza.

Well, I hope that this review proves useful to you. I feel like I ramble too much sometimes. I really enjoyed reading this. Every poem you put up gets better and better. Happy poeting!




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To begin with, I've got to say you approached your subject matter incredibly well. Thank you for that.

Also, the formatting made it very easy, yet interesting, to read, so great job on that!

Other than that, I can't really find much to say about it beyond: well done. This is probably the best poem I've read that you've written, Strange.




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oh.



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So, I didn't have time to comment earlier, and I won't really say all that much or review, because I don't do poetry,

but this is one of your finest in quite a while.




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I really enjoyed this.




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That means a lot, thanks!



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wow. I am honestly so grateful that i followed a fleeting thought to a site i havent been to in a while because this was absolutely beautiful. It honestly moved me.

The poem is all over the place in its thoughts and subjects which is juxtaposed so creatively with the labelled and formatted text. Though quickly changing, every line is packed with emotion and rawness and it comes together so brilliantly that i feel like im almost too close to you and your inner thoughts.

Another thing that strikes me is that through the poem the reader can see every development in the human psyche, brought to life with imagery in action of the world around you like "the electrical socket says // as I shove a violet crayon // perfectly through its // six holes." It makes the reader feel involved from the beginning after seeing something usually unsettling. Maybe im crazy but even the use of the colour violet specifically sounds poetic to me and like it adds to the vibrancy and abstractness of the poem.

What follows is the kind of intense yet thoughtful mental unraveling that I love in an emily dickinson poem. The use of crossing out your text is a modern and beautiful further insight into what the poet is actually thinking as opposed to what they want people to think or even what they want themselves to believe.

The ending is a simple four line stanza, closer to the original left side of the page and labelled with one world that feels already somber in its finality when the reader has yet to understand what the poet is going to do and is looking for that finality. The words within the structure are by no means simple and really solidify the despair throughout the poem in one last (almost) goodbye and morbid imagery.

I really cant say that theres anything i dislike in this poem or could critique you on. I actually think its one of my favourites so that justifies the long love letter-ish review.

I hope you continue to write, I would love to read more.
(and my first profile photo was squidward haha) x




Willard says...


You know, I was rereading this review earlier today, and I enjoy how specific you were on your praise. It surprisingly helps a lot, believe it or not. Instead of going "it's good, bye", you actually explained it.

Thanks so much and I'm glad you liked it.





Thank you, im glad to help! I think you're a great poet.




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