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To Feel One's Pain; To Feel One's Joy



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Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:29 am
Writersdomain says...



To feel one’s pain; to feel one’s joy
To know one’s heart
Not the facades they deploy
To love one even in their filth
And forgive them when their control wilts

Let them cry on your shoulder
Bleed on your once clean self
Tear at your heart
Love someone in their deadness and life
Care for them before yourself
And forgive them their involvement in your plight
A true friend

Being a friend is not a joyride
It is a challenge, a journey
Where the prize is sometimes difficult to see
But when worst comes to worst
And your defenses fall
You will look back
And laugh at your ignorance and foolishness

To feel one's pain; to feel one's joy
Last edited by Writersdomain on Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:18 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:32 pm
Duskglimmer says...



I really liked this in the beginning, but the repetition got a little old by the end. But for the most part I really liked this. I partticularly liked this stanza:

Being a friend is not a joyride
It is a challenge, a journey
Where the prize is sometimes difficult to see
But when worst comes to worst
And your defenses fall
You will look back and laugh at your ignorance and foolishness
The robbed that smiles, steals something from the thief. ~William Shakespeare, Othello
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:50 pm
Firestarter says...



It started well, but soon faded into nonsense repetition. Most of the stanzas in this poem woulcd be deleted and it would improve greatly. It would no longer be laborious and boring to read, and would get to the point quick and sharp rather than lecturing the same thing over and over like a 90-year-old teacher. So yeh, if you learn to compress and truncate your poetry, and make it much more succinct, this would be much better.
  





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Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:13 pm
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There we are. I cut it a little. Is that better, Firestarter?
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:15 pm
Firestarter says...



Yes. Tis more readable now.
  





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Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:05 am
electricbluemonkey says...



Wow...the beginning was amazing, simply amazing. Just how a poem should be, to lure a reader into the story and make him/her keep guessing and wanting to read more and more. That part was very, very good, but soon I realized that the topic was getting a big nonsensical and it started fading out, soon a new sub-topic was formed. I don't know if you actually wanted it to be that way, but it seemed strange for a poem.

Overall it was pretty good. The ending was a little choppy and didnt really go well, but the beginning was awesome.
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:47 am
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Thanks for your reply, Monkey, but I was wondering if you could point hte subplot out to me. That would help me revise it. Gracias
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:06 pm
Incandescence says...



Try to evade words that end in "ness." Such as "deadness," which has got to be the stupidest word I have ever heard.

This poem was not very...mmm...emotionally or logically appealing to your readers. It just, kind of began, and then kind of ended, with nothing in-between. You should work on imagery and metaphorical abuse first and foremost then start telling us how the world works. I'm not a fan.
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Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:50 pm
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Thanks for the honesty and suggestions Incandescence. I appreciate it
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Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:44 pm
niteowl says...



Okay, first off, too many to's in the second stanza. I think it is part of the reason why as Incandescence said, this poem seems so unemotional.


To let them cry on your shoulder
To let them bleed on your limpidness
To tear at your heart
To love someone in their deadness and life
To care for them before yourself


Here's my rewrite idea. If you don't like it, fine, but please get rid of all those to's!

Let them cry on your shoulder,
Bleed on your limpidness,
Tear at your heart.
Love someone
In death and life,
And care for them before yourself.

I agree with what Incandescence said about limpidness and deadness. Are those even words? I changed deadness to dead, but I wasn't even sure how to change limpidness.

I agree with Duskglimmer, except I think you could split that last line. Plus you could probably take out the last stanza, which is just repetitive. And you could split the longer lines in your whole poem.
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Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:19 am
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Thanks again for the suggestions. I heavily cut it again and changed that stanza for you, niteowl
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