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Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:53 am
Chupatoasta says...



Our nation is absolutely doomed. There's no more hope. Some one's going to kill Obama, then Biden willll take over... then we're really screwed... and if he's assassinated Nancy Pelosi will become leader and we'll really really be screwed. I'm already begging my mom to let us all move to Canada
  





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Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:21 am
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The United States as a government (not as a country) is one of the oldest governments in the world, and the constitution has been remarkably stable. We've gone through some awesome Presidents (Teddy Roosevelt) and some really bad Presidents (James Buchanan). Yet despite the White House once being burned to the ground, one of the bloodiest civil wars in the Western world, a depression that hit the US worst than any other country, and the fear of total annihilation during the Cold War, the United States has survived.

Whether Obama is a good president or not makes no difference; our system of government ensures that. If he does mess things up badly, then it's only for four years. Besides, we often exaggerate the effect that Washington has on us. I actually live in DC and I actually work on Capitol Hill, and I can tell you my life isn't going to change much.

As for assassinations... I really don't like that kind of talk and I'm not sure how to respond to that. However, George Bush enraged a lot of people and he's still around. Actually, enraged is an understatement. Plus, the Secret Service is really, really good. There really is no better police force in the world than the secret service.

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Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:52 am
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*Agrees with Nate*

Everyone is so hyper, chillax guys.

I have to say even before he decided to run for President, before anyone even knew his name, I was an Obama supportor. I have to admit it has a lot to do with my mom. But I do think a lot of youth (high shcool age kids) make their decisions on what their parents say and not what they really think. Most kids at my school didn't even know what the candidats stood for, they just said McCain is scary and Obama is a commie. One person said Ron Paul should have won... not sure if he did drugs that morning or not but anyways.

I agree with Obama on a lot of subjects. There is so much going around about he is a socialist, terrorist, blah blah blah. I think it is cruel, are people really afraid of change that much? Some of the stuff going around about McCain wasn't too nice either, but I really dislike what he stands for so that is about as nice as I get to John McCain.

Obviously people weren't as scared of Obama as they let on, considering her was voted in as President and did get the popular vote, even though in our system that isn't as important as the electoral college.

I must say though even before all of this craziness I liked Obama, so I'm an original lol.

I just hope that everyone will chill out and let the man be President and try to do some good. I mean we let Bush "run" the country for eight whole years. Sheesh, let's just let Obama try to do all the things that he has promised. What if he turns out to be the best President this country has ever seen? What if he really does save the economy and create jobs, and give everyone health care, and make this country better not only in the eyes of Americans, but also in the eyes of other countries? What if he makes America a place where people can truly be happy again and a place that other countries respect? Wouldn't that be good? Don't people want that?

Also whether you agree with him theologically or not, we just made history. One day we will all get to tell our grandchildren that we were alive when the first black man became President. I mean, wow. That is really and truly amazing.

If you are having trouble finding the silver lining in this (and I can respect that a lot of people did not want him to win just as I did not want McCain to win) then just think about the fact that Bush is out. You should feel better..haha.

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Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:00 am
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Silly kids. Hush. Sometimes, I wish all younger teens were as smart as Sam. *sigh*

In any case, I have to say I'm quite shocked at the anti-Obama, pessimistic attitude. Eight years being governed by a simpleton who almost single-handedly destroyed the most powerful nation in the world and *now* you choose to quibble and say "Oh, we're doomed."

Please. Go back to school. Learn something. I have no patience for stupidity, so excuse me if I seem rude.

By no means is Barack a miracle worker. He's not going to save the world or solve all your problems. It took eight years of disastrous governing to get you to this state and it will take at least as long (of brilliant governing) to get you back up on your feet. Just on that basis alone McCain was a bad choice - he's simply too old. Even though, personally, I think it wouldn't have been quite such a landslide if it weren't for Palin. But he is absolutely the best choice America had and I'm glad you took it! There were rampant celebrations in Australia. One of the teachers at university actually bought an American flag and was proud to display it for the first time in a long time.

I will say this for Obama. Just by being sworn in, he has more then halved the disapproval the entire globe has come to feel for America. He is a diplomat with a gilded tongue. Precisely what America needs. He makes me hopeful that maybe something honest and true can take root, that there will be an end to the constant turmoil and hatred. His election is the first good thing to happen in a long time and if you are unaware of the current global economic situation or the wider still and infinitely more complex global political web, and the effects this election has and will come to have, then I bid you be silent. I'm not sure you are aware of just how close to complete collapse America came and the wider consequences - calamities - that would have befallen the rest of the world in the event of that occurring.

His election doesn't solve anything but its a good sign. That's what the world needs, at the least. Had it gone the other way...I shudder even to think on it.

I'm by no means silencing opinion. Just encouraging you uber-youngsters to go to school, to observe and maybe, just maybe, learn something and speak from an educated perspective, rather than complete ignorance.

Long live Obama.
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:45 am
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Jiggity wrote:Silly kids. Hush. Sometimes, I wish all younger teens were as smart as Sam. *sigh*

In any case, I have to say I'm quite shocked at the anti-Obama, pessimistic attitude. Eight years being governed by a simpleton who almost single-handedly destroyed the most powerful nation in the world and *now* you choose to quibble and say "Oh, we're doomed."

Please. Go back to school. Learn something. I have no patience for stupidity, so excuse me if I seem rude.


Please respect those that have opposing view points. There are many people who believe that things are going to get worse, including people that have had a higher education than yourself.

By no means is Barack a miracle worker. He's not going to save the world or solve all your problems. It took eight years of disastrous governing to get you to this state and it will take at least as long (of brilliant governing) to get you back up on your feet. Just on that basis alone McCain was a bad choice - he's simply too old. Even though, personally, I think it wouldn't have been quite such a landslide if it weren't for Palin. But he is absolutely the best choice America had and I'm glad you took it! There were rampant celebrations in Australia. One of the teachers at university actually bought an American flag and was proud to display it for the first time in a long time.


I think that the proposals that Obama is proposing, with respect to health care will cause a lot more economic damage. In order to pay for it, he'll have to increase government revenues by increasing taxes. This will cut the amount of revenue that would go to firms and households, thus impacting their respective abilities to buy resources and goods, thus hurting the economy. Australia should celebrate while they still can, once the American Economy tanks under the Obama Administration, things will get really hairy.

I will say this for Obama. Just by being sworn in, he has more then halved the disapproval the entire globe has come to feel for America. He is a diplomat with a gilded tongue. Precisely what America needs. He makes me hopeful that maybe something honest and true can take root, that there will be an end to the constant turmoil and hatred. His election is the first good thing to happen in a long time and if you are unaware of the current global economic situation or the wider still and infinitely more complex global political web, and the effects this election has and will come to have, then I bid you be silent. I'm not sure you are aware of just how close to complete collapse America came and the wider consequences - calamities - that would have befallen the rest of the world in the event of that occurring.


Americans don't vote based on foreign approval ratings. We see it as an unwarranted viewpoint. Like reviewing a story while it's still being typed. We don't need a President which the world likes, we need a leader that can guide America through the hard times ahead. I don't believe Obama is capable of doing that. He'll be led by the people instead of leading the people.

Some people call it visionary leadership. I call it the blind leading the blind.

Another thing worth keeping in mind is that we are in a recession and that electing Obama has done nothing to prevent these "calamities" from occurring. They're still just as possible as they were a few days ago, if not more likely.

His election doesn't solve anything but its a good sign. That's what the world needs, at the least. Had it gone the other way...I shudder even to think on it.

I'm by no means silencing opinion. Just encouraging you uber-youngsters to go to school, to observe and maybe, just maybe, learn something and speak from an educated perspective, rather than complete ignorance.

Long live Obama.


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Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:13 am
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Would it be bigotry? ^^

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Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:17 am
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*raises hand* Fallacy of Composition?

The whole deal is a mess, really. None of the candidates were perfect, but we agreed more with one than any of the others. Obama's not going to turn America around and send us into a golden age. If he does, I'll buy a lottery ticket. That would take time. He might make us better than what we are, but he's not going to raise us on a pedestal and solve all our problems. At the same time, his tax policies scare me to death. No one pulling in under 250k a year will see their taxes go up. For a business, that's not all that much to pull in a year. Keep in mind that you then need to divide that into employee salary, software, maintenance, etc. The amount of money being paid on his tax plan would be better spent in the business's hands, I think, where they can use it to hire more employees and make more jobs.

I was going more for John McCain because of the tax issue with Obama, as well as the war in Iraq. But then, McCain was also against abortion and gay marriage, though he would have left those decisions in the hands of the states. He would have put in more conservative judges, however, that could oppose those things long after McCain's gone. I'm not a big fan of abortion unless it's done pretty early on in the pregnancy, but I still think it should be available as a choice.

I think what tipped me over to McCain's side was watching them answer questions. McCain would give it to you straight, and Obama would do a pretty little dance in a few circles before acting like he answered your question (How big is the fee going to be, anyway?) While pretty to look at, in the end, it's just a load of fluff and political jabber. If he didn't have an answer or if he didn't want to give the answer, he'd dance around it. Even if he did have an answer he wanted to give, it still took him a few extra lines to spit it out. Really, the guy would be brilliant at NaNoWriMo. ;)

John McCain and Sarah Palin were both strong in their views and stuck to them. Palin had two situations when it would have been easier to have wavered on her views and said okay to an abortion. While a great quality to have, it's not so great when you don't agree with them. Then you desperately want them to change but they're too stubborn to go any other way.

Both had Pros and Cons, but I think McCain was the lesser of the two evils.
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:33 pm
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Yikes! We need a much more positive attitude about the future of America.

America is a great nation. We're still young, but we've already overcome so much. And we've done terrible things, and we've analyzed them and tried to correct them as well. If this is a bad decision (though I do not believe so), then in four years we will rectify it. If wrong things are done, then Americans will let their voices be heard and we will know.

Be positive for our future, because we're a great people and we know how to get things done. 8)

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Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:13 pm
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I think everybody should just take a breather. It doesn't matter whether you like Barack Obama or not, I mean that in the nicest way possible, because HE'S OUR PRESIDENT. He'll be leading the country for the next four years and the least we can do is support him, even if we don't agree with or like him. :D
  





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Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:04 pm
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I think everybody should just take a breather. It doesn't matter whether you like Barack Obama or not, I mean that in the nicest way possible, because HE'S OUR PRESIDENT. He'll be leading the country for the next four years and the least we can do is support him, even if we don't agree with or like him.


I agree, all we can do now is support him, and if he is just really REALLY bad they could just impeach him; however it is our duty, even if we don't agree with their ideas, we must support our president. Cause he is going to run our country, and decided important things.
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:41 pm
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Seriously--just remember that you're still here, even after the last eight years. President Bush was great after 9/11, but less than a year later we were involved in two wars, saw the highest debt in our country's history, and some of the lowest approval ratings in the American presidency. More recently, our involvement with other wars and the democratization of the planet have resulted in the spread of anti-Americanism across the Middle East, Eurasia, and Latin America. The administration resorted to fear tactics to keep us in one place--instead of learning from our mistakes in the Cold War, we were relentlessly reminded of the fact that we were the best nation on Earth, and that the spread of Islam, socialism, and emerging Asian markets would be the downfall of the United States as we know it.

In the past two months, we have seen the worst economic downturn in United States history--with the power to not only bring an end to "good ole American capitalism", but to spark poverty around the globe. While President Bush is our president and is in no way responsible for every wrong done in government (just ask Nate), you cannot dispute the fact that during his administration, things took a turn for the worse.

If you think Obama's entirely bad news, clearly you're like me and didn't pay attention to the news until he started to run for president. ^_~

Also--I think it's statistically unlikely that 63.7 million people are so idiotic as to vote for the anti-Christ who will surely bring death and destruction to the world. He was endorsed by Newsweek International, the Economist, Colin Powell, Oprah Winfrey, Jimmy Carter, Nobel Laureate economist Paul Krugman, Warren Buffet, and writers Khaled Hosseini and Johnathan Safran Foer. Worldwide, nearly three-fourths of economists polled said they would be glad to work under an Obama administration. It's also statistically unlikely that all of those people were drugged when publicly endorsing him. That's not to say that people who voted for McCain are stupid--plenty of influential figures endorsed him publicly. But it's odd to make a statement like "he will bring the end of America!", because...well, we all know what a do-gooder Oprah is.

Of course, Kim Kardashian and Perez Hilton voted Obama, but there are plenty of smart people to balance them out. XD
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:56 pm
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Also--I think it's statistically unlikely that 63.7 million people are so idiotic as to vote for the anti-Christ who will surely bring death and destruction to the world.


Some people will say YES to this, but I'm with you. I have hope in the human being and that our better nature is what drives us in these decisions. I believe in that much humanity...
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:59 pm
Juniper says...



-huggles Nate-
I loved that little speech ^^


It puzzles me how people still question Obama when he made everything about himself clear. People have asked him more questions about his past and future plans than they've asked Mc Cain and Hilary Clinton combined. It frustrates me.

Seriously, we need to start looking at the positives and have faith that Obama will keep his promises;; I have a strong feeling he will. And if he doesn't then it seems that life will be the same, and wont get any worse. I mean, c'mon people, if he wasn't serious about all of this do you think he would've sacrificed all that he did just for those few minutes of victory? I think not.


And on another note, think about what it would have been like if McCain won... I mean, he is an old man, and nothing personal to him, but I think that he should be taking it easy in these years. If he was to move on then we would be ruled by Sarah Palin who unfortunately couldnt answer simple questions... I don't think I would enjoy that too much.


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Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:32 am
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Jiggity:

Please. Go back to school. Learn something. I have no patience for stupidity, so excuse me if I seem rude.


It appears you have amnesia. The vitriolic hate from the left has been overwhelming for six years, and I'm guessing you were pretty silent on that. Also, does it make you feel good to put down a 14 year old? I guess it must. And are you always so hateful of the other point of view as you appear to be? Many good decent people agree with Bush, and many good decent people don't. What's great about the world we live in is that both camps can argue with each other with civility and grace. Unfortunately, you seem to lack both characteristics.



To those opposing Obama, Just remember the last four years and how hateful the left was toward you and how that made you feel. In fact, just look at Jiggity's comment. Don't be like that. Rise above the bitter side of human nature.


On Obama - on foreign policy - the guy is going to be fine. America's foreign policy hardly changes from President to President. He'll bring a new approach to some things, and that's a good thing. However, it'll mostly be the same.

It's his economic policy I don't like, but he does have many of the right guys working for him so I'm going to take a wait-and-see approach. After all, what a candidate says and actually does are two very different things. When Bush was running in 2000, he was for carbon reduction measures, against nation-building, and against partisanship (sounds like Obama, doesn't it?).

We also have to remember that the President has very little impact on our lives. We build it up and act like it does, but it really doesn't. Far more troublesome to me is a traffic light the city installed down the block. Seriously, that traffic light is not necessary whatsoever and I always seem to get the red light.
  





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Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:35 pm
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I'm just glade it's all over with. Are school was basically separated with Obama supporters and McCain supporters. I'm just glade that is over with.
  








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