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Fantasy Novelists Exam



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Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:26 pm
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((Taken from http://www.rinkworks.com/fnovel/))

Intro:Ever since J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis created the worlds of Middle Earth and Narnia, it seems like every windbag off the street thinks he can write great, original fantasy, too. The problem is that most of this "great, original fantasy" is actually poor, derivative fantasy. Frankly, we're sick of it, so we've compiled a list of rip-off tip-offs in the form of an exam. We think anybody considering writing a fantasy novel should be required to take this exam first. Answering "yes" to any one question results in failure and means that the prospective novel should be abandoned at once.
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The Exam

1. Does nothing happen in the first fifty pages?
2. Is your main character a young farmhand with mysterious parentage?
3. Is your main character the heir to the throne but doesn't know it?
4. Is your story about a young character who comes of age, gains great power, and defeats the supreme badguy?
5. Is your story about a quest for a magical artifact that will save the world?
6. How about one that will destroy it?
7. Does your story revolve around an ancient prophecy about "The One" who will save the world and everybody and all the forces of good?
8. Does your novel contain a character whose sole purpose is to show up at random plot points and dispense information?
9. Does your novel contain a character that is really a god in disguise?
10. Is the evil supreme badguy secretly the father of your main character?
11. Is the king of your world a kindly king duped by an evil magician?
12. Does "a forgetful wizard" describe any of the characters in your novel?
13. How about "a powerful but slow and kind-hearted warrior"?
14. How about "a wise, mystical sage who refuses to give away plot details for his own personal, mysterious reasons"?
15. Do the female characters in your novel spend a lot of time worrying about how they look, especially when the male main character is around?
16. Do any of your female characters exist solely to be captured and rescued?
17. Do any of your female characters exist solely to embody feminist ideals?
18. Would "a clumsy cooking wench more comfortable with a frying pan than a sword" aptly describe any of your female characters?
19. Would "a fearless warrioress more comfortable with a sword than a frying pan" aptly describe any of your female characters?
20. Is any character in your novel best described as "a dour dwarf"?
21. How about "a half-elf torn between his human and elven heritage"?
22. Did you make the elves and the dwarves great friends, just to be different?
23. Does everybody under four feet tall exist solely for comic relief?
24. Do you think that the only two uses for ships are fishing and piracy?
25. Do you not know when the hay baler was invented?
26. Did you draw a map for your novel which includes places named things like "The Blasted Lands" or "The Forest of Fear" or "The Desert of Desolation" or absolutely anything "of Doom"?
27. Does your novel contain a prologue that is impossible to understand until you've read the entire book, if even then?
28. Is this the first book in a planned trilogy?
29. How about a quintet or a decalogue?
30. Is your novel thicker than a New York City phone book?
31. Did absolutely nothing happen in the previous book you wrote, yet you figure you're still many sequels away from finishing your "story"?
32. Are you writing prequels to your as-yet-unfinished series of books?
33. Is your name Robert Jordan and you lied like a dog to get this far?
34. Is your novel based on the adventures of your role-playing group?
35. Does your novel contain characters transported from the real world to a fantasy realm?
36. Do any of your main characters have apostrophes or dashes in their names?
37. Do any of your main characters have names longer than three syllables?
38. Do you see nothing wrong with having two characters from the same small isolated village being named "Tim Umber" and "Belthusalanthalus al'Grinsok"?
39. Does your novel contain orcs, elves, dwarves, or halflings?
40. How about "orken" or "dwerrows"?
41. Do you have a race prefixed by "half-"?
42. At any point in your novel, do the main characters take a shortcut through ancient dwarven mines?
43. Do you write your battle scenes by playing them out in your favorite RPG?
44. Have you done up game statistics for all of your main characters in your favorite RPG?
45. Are you writing a work-for-hire for Wizards of the Coast?
46. Do inns in your book exist solely so your main characters can have brawls?
47. Do you think you know how feudalism worked but really don't?
48. Do your characters spend an inordinate amount of time journeying from place to place?
49. Could one of your main characters tell the other characters something that would really help them in their quest but refuses to do so just so it won't break the plot?
50. Do any of the magic users in your novel cast spells easily identifiable as "fireball" or "lightning bolt"?
51. Do you ever use the term "mana" in your novel?
52. Do you ever use the term "plate mail" in your novel?
53. Heaven help you, do you ever use the term "hit points" in your novel?
54. Do you not realize how much gold actually weighs?
55. Do you think horses can gallop all day long without rest?
56. Does anybody in your novel fight for two hours straight in full plate armor, then ride a horse for four hours, then delicately make love to a willing barmaid all in the same day?
57. Does your main character have a magic axe, hammer, spear, or other weapon that returns to him when he throws it?
58. Does anybody in your novel ever stab anybody with a scimitar?
59. Does anybody in your novel stab anybody straight through plate armor?
60. Do you think swords weigh ten pounds or more? [info]
61. Does your hero fall in love with an unattainable woman, whom he later attains?
62. Does a large portion of the humor in your novel consist of puns?
63. Is your hero able to withstand multiple blows from the fantasy equivalent of a ten pound sledge but is still threatened by a small woman with a dagger?
64. Do you really think it frequently takes more than one arrow in the chest to kill a man?
65. Do you not realize it takes hours to make a good stew, making it a poor choice for an "on the road" meal?
66. Do you have nomadic barbarians living on the tundra and consuming barrels and barrels of mead?
67. Do you think that "mead" is just a fancy name for "beer"?
68. Does your story involve a number of different races, each of which has exactly one country, one ruler, and one religion?
69. Is the best organized and most numerous group of people in your world the thieves' guild?
70. Does your main villain punish insignificant mistakes with death?
71. Is your story about a crack team of warriors that take along a bard who is useless in a fight, though he plays a mean lute?
72. Is "common" the official language of your world?
73. Is the countryside in your novel littered with tombs and gravesites filled with ancient magical loot that nobody thought to steal centuries before?
74. Is your book basically a rip-off of The Lord of the Rings?
75. Read that question again and answer truthfully.
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Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:50 pm
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Is this the first book in a planned trilogy?

Does your novel contain characters transported from the real world to a fantasy realm?


Eep.

Still, only two outta seventy-five :P. And out of all my stories (I have like four... yeah, bad, I know), only one of them got those points. So all is not lost ;).

Also, what's wrong with trilogies?
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Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:59 pm
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Up until "12." i was thinking,
"Unless your writing a Disc World novel, then you answer 'yes' to all and have a cowardly wizard make them all abundantly clear"

Agreed- test should be made a legal requirement for fantasy writers,
once you got you license your good to go.

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Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:29 pm
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Sureal wrote:Is this the first book in a planned trilogy?

Does your novel contain characters transported from the real world to a fantasy realm?


Eep.

Still, only two outta seventy-five :P. And out of all my stories (I have like four... yeah, bad, I know), only one of them got those points. So all is not lost ;).

Also, what's wrong with trilogies?


Yeah - theres nothing wrong with a trilogy, so I disagree with that one. And theres nothing wrong with portals etc... as long as they are used in a fresh way.

I suppose what the writer was hinting at was dont make a story Narnia, make it your own.
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Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:37 pm
Esmé says...



27 - yes. I love those kind of prologues. Muahahaha.

29 - Decalogue of course. Why not? (Well, I probably won't finish the first book, but it never hurts to plan ahead, right?)

39 - Yes. Add dragons to your test, lol.

47- yes, lol. Probably. I don't know. I guess that means 'yes'.

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Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:10 pm
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LOL! :lol:
That was awesome. Even though a very few applied to my story, those are the ones I'm mainly working to change. Heehee! The list is awesome. Kind of reminds me of "100 Things I would do if I were an Evil Overlord." www.eviloverlords.com
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:22 am
Zeige says...



a good test for all fantasy writers :P

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Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:58 am
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Personaly, I found many of the questions quite funny, especially #56, 63, 73, and all the ones that are cracks on video games. As to #4, I'm not sure if I can agree with that one. Sure, it's used, but then again, it's also rather vauge. You could boil down many new and old stories and get that plotline, and they're all legitimate stories. Well, a lot of them are at least. Fortunately, my story only really has two, maybe three yes answers, so I'll look into that. Other than a few questions, this is actually a very good test. Thanks for bringing it up.
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:09 am
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27. Does your novel contain a prologue that is impossible to understand until you've read the entire book, if even then?

Yes, but only because everyone said it was not a chapter one but a prologue, and it is needed, otherwise no one would read. And its not so much until you've read the entire book, but until my hints slowly drop and you understand the back plot.

33. Is your name Robert Jordan and you lied like a dog to get this far?

I'm curious; what is this one poking fun at?

37. Do any of your main characters have names longer than three syllables?

Felicion, depending on whether you are sayig it fe-li-ci-on or fel-i-ci-on or fe-li-ceon er you get it lol

lol whts really funny is all this is based on my realistic fiction story. How odd? I hate fantasy, usually at least. Nor can I write it, though my funk-i-fide short stories have been called fantasy...ha ha ha
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:15 am
Joeducktape says...



The only one I said yes to was 25:

"Do you not know when the hay baler was invented?"

hehe.

The fact that I only had one out of seventy-five made me feel better. Especially since I didn't feel guilty about it.
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:44 am
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Robert Jordon, after a quick google wrote "the Wheel of Time" series. SO he must be a famous author?
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:44 pm
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Yup! He has a twelve-book fantasy series, and the reason he's mentioned is that he'd have to say 'yes' to most of these...

However, I think he can get away with it, just 'cause I love his writing style. EXCEPT I don't like how he drags everything out near the middle of the series lol.
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:48 pm
de_budding says...



Joeducktape wrote:
hehe.

The fact that I only had one out of seventy-five made me feel better. Especially since I didn't feel guilty about it.


I think you could answer no to all and still have an unorigional fantasy story, xD
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:42 am
Zeige says...



fantasy isn't about following a set of guidlines but it is a good idea to know whats allready been done before and done to death everyone needs something to stand their novel or whatever out from everything else
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:22 am
Elelel says...



Hehe! I've seen this before. Very amusing.

37. Do any of your main characters have names longer than three syllables?


Hehe! Well that sucks! I fail as a fantasy writer because I have a character called "Victoria". Everyone calls her Vic anyway.
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