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Hey!
So, harshita3chaarag asked me for the Poetry Pairs contest and she was so sweet, that I decided okay! Now, I'm not much of a poet and this is a combined work that we enjoyed writing so far. We're still working on finishing it, so this isn't the entire piece. And we're still trying to figure out a title.
We would love some critiques. :)


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New A/N : The first half in undergoing a revision, but while we're doing that, how's the latter part? Critiques on grammar, punctuation and anything else welcomed. The unedited first half is in the spoiler.

Thanks again, for your critiques.

Spoiler
The sky is a clear blue
And the hills stand tall
The birds chirp a melody
And the wind blows gently.
A faint rush of a waterfall
and the smell of a damp earth,
they beckon you. To become
one with them; beautiful.


Spine curved, with glittering drops on her face,
her fingers work quickly. The monotonous cycle
of smell, see, touch and taste; oblivious
to everything else.
Perhaps, this, a blemish to your idealization,
you try to layer this with your own image
of maybe a boy, running, untamed among
bushes and trees.


A chunni shields her face, while her children,
they reach toward the sun. She caresses their
soft, green bodies; and plucks. The emanating
aromas, seductive.
Hair oiled into a bun, you can't feel what she does,
but her pain, you know. A sympathetic smile,
you walk toward her. She senses you, she sees you;
a whisper : brother.


She sees you running
through the bushes, surreal.
She moves towards you,
you vanish like a phantom
but that's not what you are.

Memories come back
flashing in her eyes
letting the pain through
what she had kept inside
And the hurt overcame her.

You were a hero
you were her superman
not because you had strength,
you didn't even have speed
neither could you fly but you were the world to her
you were her mentor
you were her brother.

She depended on you
to give her strength,
to wipe her tears,
to ease her pains,
but you left her alone.

You were her wall
when she needed your support.
You encouraged her,
you embraced her
you helped her through high and low.

But now you're gone
and she's still here
when she needs you most.
Follow her dreams, she must;
your subtle influence grips her
and she knows you are there.
A smile sneaks onto her visage,
she turns back to her children.

She feels your presence
an inspiration and comfort
her fingers still plucking
she doesn't look up;
you reside in her heart.
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Also; what do you think the end might be? This is just to gauge how well we're going on with this.
Thanks for your critiques in advance. We appreciate it. :)
Last edited by Lava on Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:38 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Hey!

So, I just want to wish you two good luck in the contest, as I'm entered too. So, to your poem. I just had a couple of quick comments. This was really a magnificent poem, and you create a lot of serene imagery. When reaching the end, you definitely feel something; refreshed, revitalized, like you can really see yourself apart of the world that's created here.

I like that it's not about much, but still manages to leave an impact. What really prevents me from liking this as much as I feel like I should, however, is the flow. It's really clunky and doesn't feel poetic. Try reading the poem aloud once to see what I mean. Poetry is different from prose because it's stylistic and there aren't as many rules.

Deleting a lot of the words like "and" and "is" will definitely help. Then look to see if you can try to vary your vocabulary and strengthen your imagery using things like similes and metaphors. For example, in the beginning you say the sky is blue. Most of us can picture a blue sky, but we have to think about it first. From the beginning, you want to transport us so we're there.

I'm sorry that I don't have much more to say; this is really a great piece! Hope this helps you with your revisions, and feel free to PM me for anything.

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Hello, you two! I'm here with mediocre poem skills, but hopefully I'll have at least something helpful to mention. One can always hope anyway!

It's unfortunate this isn't finished yet, but I think so far, your tone is very good! I presume you tried for a peaceful atmosphere, and this definitely succeeded in that. Since I'm mediocre and don't do well in overall poem reviews yet, I'll be moving stanza by stanza!

1. The sky is a clear blue
2. And the hills stand tall (period?)
3. The birds chirp a melody
4. And the wind blows gently.
5. A faint rush of a waterfall
6. and the smell of a damp earth,
7. they beckon you. To become
8. one with them; beautiful.


Lines 1-6 are a beautiful setup for your atmosphere. Wonderful imagery which sets up that peaceful atmosphere I mentioned earlier. Lines 7-8 are where it gets iffy for me.

I think it's the grammar here which throws me off? The idea behind them are obviously the thesis, if you will, or message of your poem. The whole point. But it's odd to me how it's tied into line six. I suggest "they beckon you" being its own sentence or at least the start of one. If we put in the periods I mentioned, then 1-2, 3-4, and 5-6 would all be a beautiful pattern broken by only the poem's message in lines 7-8.

In line 8, I also don't think I like that semicolon breaking off "beautiful." Perhaps just end the sentence and give the word its own line?

My overall view of the stanza is already said, but it's a beautiful setup. I sure hope this poem ends as beautifully pleasant as it started!

1. Spine curved,* with glittering drops on her face,
2. her fingers work quickly. The monotonous cycle
3. of smell, see, touch and taste; oblivious
4. to everything else.
5. Perhaps, this, a blemish to your idealization,
6. you try to layer this with your own image
7. of maybe a boy,* running,* untamed among
8. bushes and trees.


We're going real comma-happy here. XD There are a lot of commas that arguably don't need to be there, which I follow with an asterisk. (The last one probably doesn't need to go.)

Anyway! I like the description you have of this gardener. It's an interesting contrast to the "beautiful" scene mentioned directly before this. The obliviousness is even cooler! Lines 5-8 throw me off though. I'm not sure what's being said in this sentence, actually. D: I don't think that first "this" needs to be there since you say "this" again in line 6. Sounds a bit redundant to me. But nitpickiness aside, what is referred to by "this"? And I can't make sense of line 6 and the layering. Therefore, I don't know what lines 7-8 are getting at. xD

1. A chunni shields her face,* while her children,*
2. theyreach toward the sun. She caresses their
3. soft, green bodies; and plucks. The emanating
4. aromas, seductive.
5. Hair oiled into a bun, you can't feel what she does,
6. but her pain, you know. A sympathetic smile,
7. you walk toward her. She senses you, she sees you;
8. a whisper : brother.


Maybe if I understood the boy in the previous stanza, I'd understand the metaphor used here to describe the plants (I'm assuming flowers?) as children. Otherwise, if this metaphor is used, I hope it's used later on again or earlier (or both!) just so it doesn't seem random to the poem's point. Especially since that motherly presence is described for a few lines here rather than just one. It shows a little more significance, I guess?

In line 5, I don't see how her hair relates to the rest of the sentence. It seems like something that should be said when introducing her in the previous stanza if anywhere at all. I'm not sure it has a place here. And to finish the sentence, in line 6, I think that clause needs some work. The line break before it is wonderful. I think the phrasing is just a big mind-wrenching. I can't explain it. xD It's awkward, I guess. But the suspense of the line break is excellent.

And I wish I had the rest of the poem to figure out what the last two lines mean. D:

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Those are my thoughts! Overall, you've got a beautiful scene set up for a potentially goosebumpy ending (you know, the kind that sends shivers down your spine). I suggest at the end to tie back to the beginning somehow. Definitely mention the message as perhaps the "beautiful" scene as well. And don't forget that children metaphor! The woman has a motherly personality that I think you can definitely play around with too.

Good luck in the contest! I'm pleased to hear you two are enjoying the opportunity to co-write a poem together. :D (And that a fiction-writer is braver than I!) Brilliantly done. You guys should feel proud!

Keep writing!

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Hey,

So I made the mistake of not reading the AN before reading the poem, which is why I spent five minutes rereading it critically trying to understand the brother bit. I think that the first stanza is not as poetic as it could be. It's very straight forward and blunt but not in a particulary good way. It's like a scientist is describing the scene rather than a poet. I love the second stanza. I don't think it needs any work :) The third stanza is also good but I think I don't understand it because I don't have the rest of the poem (and maybe because I'm not sure what a chunni is (possibly a scarf or hijab of some kind?)).

Favorite Line: Perhaps, this, a blemish to your idealization,you try to layer this with your own image

Grade: A-

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Hi, Lava! I'm going to give you a much more general crit, here, especially as this is only part of your poem!

Now, my biggest issue here is that this poem reads exactly like prose would, just simply with line breaks. It doesn't feel poetic to me - and yes, I know that is possibly the most ambiguous thing I could have said!

This bit, "you can't feel what she does,/but her pain, you know." was possibly the most poetic bit for me - and I love it! What I'd like to see you both do is take the images you already have and rework your wording a bit to get out of a prose-like meter and in to a more poetic one. This feels like the absolute height of hubris, but I think if you wanted this piece to remain more prose-like, you would have chosen a different format - be it actual prose, or more of a prose poem.

Another example of what I really liked, and want to see more of, "a boy, running, untamed among/bushes and trees." See, this tells me that you both are so capable of making this beautifully poetic, so I'll be mean and tell you to go push yourselves farther to make it happen!

Just to give you one place among several I'd love to see some really pretty imagery - in the first stanza here, you have, "The birds chirp a melody/And the wind blows gently." Now, this image is lovely; I just take issue with your presentation! You could do something so much more with this image - talk about the birds' melodies floating on the soft wind or something that shows your image rather than just telling us! Much more powerful of an image, and (I think) more fun to read and write!


My only other comment is to watch those commas (and other grammatical oddities of English)! You don't need at least half of them, but until you have this in a more final draft, I'll hold-off saying anything else on those ^^

I really enjoyed reading this, you two! Thanks for the read! Also, I'm not going to guess where you're going with this :P I'd rather be led along the way first, and then dissect the poem from there! See, where you intend to go with a poem doesn't matter to me quite so much as how effectively you lead your audience there, and allow your audience room to interpret and visualize. So! Keep up the good work!

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Hey...!! I'm really grateful to every one for the help. Thank you so very much... We'll work together on it and honestly Lava has done the most of it... I'm just in the beginning... Thanks a lot.. I owe you one!!:)
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Beautiful... Such suprise and slowness. But I think the poem would end that way. It can give a bii of unsatisfaction at the same time, suspense to your poem.
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Heres a tip - when you finish it, don't explain everything. It would give the reader a sort of, oh... As in, that didn't leave the mysterious impression it could have. It's a great poem, but the begging doesn't flow like a poem should. I love it. X




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I'm not a poet and I really know nothing about poetry, but when I saw this on Lava's feed, something possessed me to come and review it so here I am. Let's hope I can be of some use! ^_^

Firstly, I'm a little confused: is the part not under the spoiler a complete poem? It reads like one, to me, but from your note it seems like you're saying that it's just the second half. :/ Anyhow, I'm going to assume that what isn't under the spoiler is the whole poem. Sorry if I'm wrong about that.

Anyhow, I like this! Y'all's portrayal of emotion is simply stunning. You've managed to communicate a sense of mood and atmosphere really well through your imagery. I can't put my finger on why this works, exactly, but it certainly does. I loved the first stanza in particular, and that line about the phantom gave me chills.

not because you had strength,
you didn't even have speed
neither could you fly but you were the world to her
This (the whole quoted section, but especially the underlined bit) felt a little awkward to me. I like the superman analogy, but I just think that this part felt too specific. It felt a little too much like stating the obvious. But if you want to keep it, I think it might be more natural to say "nor" rather than "neither." That might just be me though.

I'm not sure what the end was, but I have a feeling she's plucking some sort of a musical instrument. Like she's playing a song to him (I assume "you" is male) or to his memory. Am I close? The last line feels a little bit too cliché for my liking. I feel terrible saying that, but it just stands out as almost a little bit cheesy because the rest of the poem doesn't feel that obvious. I'd rather have the last line be more ambiguous, but once again that's probably just a matter of personal opinion.

I'm not sure why I wrote this review, because I really don't feel qualified to say anything about the poem (much less tell you how to revise it) but I hope this helps a little bit!

Beautiful work, both of you. Best of luck.

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