Atheists and Agnostics

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Can Eternal Life Have Meaning?

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  1. To sleep; perchance to dream, my friend.

    Eternal human life is not really all that appealing, per se, but I don't think its human lives we're talking about. Its the soul without the body. I don't know if there is really any physical need when detached, if souls exist.

    Of course, I'm an Atheist so all of this is my own speculation on different religious beliefs. In any case, the thought still carries. Its not about living forever. Its being forever.
  2. Eternal life of any kind would eventually become the hell of monotony I'd think, unless you were sedated or altered mentally to preserve happiness, which doesn't sound much like a heaven to me.
  3. Pascal's Wager! Do look it up; it's a logical fallacy that pops up eventually in every debate about the after life.
  4. Matthew, I would rather live my life according my own moral code, than feel entrapped by a book written by man that I don't agree with. Sure, there are positive points in the bible, but there are also negative ones. And those negative ones go against everything my soul tells me to be true and good. Besides, the idea of spending an eternity doing anything seems like it would lose meaning eventually. No one can stay happy forever, not even if given everything they've ever wanted.

    The reason life has meaning for me because I know someday, I will die. I find that I love stronger, try harder, forgive more... all because I know that someday this will all be over. I'm not happy unless I am working for something, and what is there to work for in eternity?
  5. Also, look at the practical side of things. Let's say you worship god just in case he exists, because you don't want to go to hell. In that case, which god do you worship? Jehova, Allah, Brahma, Zeus, Odin, Ra, or Pikkiwoki the Papua New Guinean mud god who promises you a pig and as many coconuts as you can carry in the after-life? Which hell do you fear?
    Surely if there is a god - and he isn't a complete asshat, and he actually gives a damn about a puny race of hairless apes stuck to a tiny rock in the vastness of the cosmos - he would value intelligence and critical thinking over blind belief and "what if's?" And wouldn't he know if the only reason for your belief was self interest?
    No, believing 'just in case' is illogical, irrational and just plain silly.
  6. Wrong, an analogy is a comparison of two similar concepts or ideas. There is a difference between saying "I believe because I don't want to go to hell," (self interest) and "my belief is sure" (willful ignorance).
    Eh, we've digressed far enough off the initial topic of this thread; there is no need for you to defend your faith here.
  7. Well then, suggest a topic for discussion - something refreshing - and we'll be happy to reply.
  8. I had a long think about this because it really bugged me. Although I don't believe in life after death and this is the only chance we will get I kind of get why people would believe that. It scares me to think that we only have one life and that we may waste it. I would rather be reincarnated than go to heaven/hell/limbo though.
  9. I just want to be immortal in this life, that way I can continue to observe and learn, my goal in life is one that would be rather hard to finish even with infinite time. Granted things will be boring often, but I imagine I can endure as long as once every 100 years something interesting happens.


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