Hey Jack,
I should probably participate in Review Day someway right? And I'm always a fan of your religious poetry, so let's take a look! I'll just go stanza to stanza today. As always, let me know if I missed something you wanted some comments on and I'll take a second look.
The opening of the "executed Roman women - third century - martyrs - virgins" is a good entry into the piece - it's striking because martyrdom is really weird because you're dying not to be recognized yourself but to recognize Christ, but still the anonymity of it, is uncomfortable because what's written reads almost like a gravestone or newspaper article - it's saying important things, but there's no name, no person to attach it to. The anonymity of martyrdom is especially uncomfortable with women saints because they are so often overlooked or just looked at as "women saints" / "women martyrs" rather than just saints, just martyrs, just people - so they have to tackle this extra layer of anonymity.
I wish there was a bit more of saint euthalia's story - even if dramatized a bit to help make it personally connect in stanza two - even like going for some of her internal thoughts or an guess at what she might have been praying would be an interesting way to personalize the story.
I like 'glimpse memories' -- it's an interesting way to phrase it that's really fitting. I like stanza three, because it evokes memories for me of walking around in a Greek Orthodox church (as a Protestant who has very little saint knowledge) and looking at all these intricate icons and feeling like I didn't know these people, but that I should, and wondering who really knew their story. I think you could put a bit more imagery in there to evoke memories maybe - what do the saints look like, what is the rebel rebelling about, and why look for at saints?
4th stanza I agree with the reviewers above - nice Nicene reference in there to get the time line in. I notice the repetition of the word memories in line 1 - intentional?
I'm not completely sure what stanza 4 is getting at - stanza 5 says a lot - but stanza 4 feels like it's saying, "remember that time by the Nicene council? There were a lot of martyrs, and you can't imagine how many were femme. But we only remember history selectively." At least that's what I think you're getting at? There might be a more direct way speak in stanza 4 to get there though.
Stanza 5 - Intriguing, so I'm missing something here from being a non-catholic, are you talking about the names given when people are baptized / confirmed? At first I read it as the speaker saying, "why do we use male pronouns for God (persons of trinity) when we baptize children when there were plenty of martyrs who were women - why is the female role relegated to just being a mother but not a god?" Okay that's very intriguing - and could even be uncomfortable for people who like to stick to male pronouns for god, but I'm following it and I think it's really interesting. (side note: "She Who Is" is a really interesting book that I recommend for people who are interested in using non-masc pronouns for God)
My second reading, is maybe you're talking about like baptismal names and maybe this is a critique that why do boys get all the options of a whole host of names and then for girls they just have Mary as an option, when there are a lot more out there that we aren't talking about.
^This is a much less dramatic reading, and I think I would have gotten to sooner if I was Catholic or in a church where we did baptismal naming. And I get how you get there with the martyr deal at the beginning, but I almost wish it came back to saint euthalia's name at the end - because it's that naming issue that's so prominent in the poem.
I liked the flow of the piece - and the format of 5/4/3/4/5 - you had some interesting line breaks, but I think they worked for keeping stuff even, though some of the phrasings got chopped that way.
I liked this overall! My main feedback is maybe more imagery in second half, and more directness in the last two stanzas.
- alliyah
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