z

Young Writers Society


Blacksmithing



User avatar
17 Reviews



Gender: None specified
Points: 550
Reviews: 17
Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:04 am
View Likes
wafflewolf7 says...



I'm in the process of writing a story, and one of my characters is a blacksmith's apprentice. I don't want to change the character because I really like that as an aspect of their personality, but I know nothing about blacksmiths. Help please?
  





User avatar
1272 Reviews



Gender: Other
Points: 89625
Reviews: 1272
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:05 am
Rosendorn says...



What time period are we talking here?
A writer is a world trapped in a person— Victor Hugo

Ink is blood. Paper is bandages. The wounded press books to their heart to know they're not alone.
  





User avatar
17 Reviews



Gender: None specified
Points: 550
Reviews: 17
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:46 am
wafflewolf7 says...



This would actually be in the future- but I just need to know the basics like what they do on a work day or how long it takes to make a weapon.
  





User avatar
110 Reviews



Gender: Male
Points: 546
Reviews: 110
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:38 am
View Likes
Zolen says...



Blacksmiths is quickly losing value outside of decorative objects.

There is a market for knives for blacksmiths, but if we took the idea into the far flung future, their jobs would be completely replaced by robots and automation. In fact much of it is replaced by machines today.

It used to be, you would coal heat a furnace, a process that could take hours of work, put your bars in until they are red hot, and then pull them out and hammer them with something about as heavy as a sledge hammer. Because of how hard this process is, often there would be an aid who would use the sledge hammer. This process can take between 3 to 42 hours, of hammering it while its hot, reheating it, and then hammering it again, until its hammered to shape, based on how big it is, and what method of hammering that is used. Then 10 hours to 2 days of head treating, to get the metal the perfect amount of flexible and hard.

Next, using a stone they would grind down and detail the blade. This used to take 5 to 10 hours.

Then you would have to wait for a wood worker or leather worker, for the handle, and a silver smith to make the guard and pommel, you usually had to wait a week or two to get the parts, which you would then hammer on, a process that would only take a few minutes. But yeah, a week long wait at the best of times.

In modern times, we often use a gas or electric oven, some traditionalist might use coal, but the oven is still made so that much of the process of heating it up to the needed degree only takes a hour at most of waiting around. Then you spot weld the metal bar to a handle, and shove the metal in, pulling it out to shape with a power hammer. Hard work, but it should only take a hour at most unless you are making something incredibly elaborate. Following that you heat treat it, with modern chemicals and tactics this process will only take a hour for most things, unless you are making something really complex, and 12 hours should be enough for that. You then use a belt grinder to smooth everything out. The guard and pommel are often molded to shape in our modern age by the blacksmith, which would only take a hour at most, with a few additional hours depending on any extra detailing and smoothing out they may want to do with either a sander, dermal, or some other tool. The handle is often leather or cloth wrapped, something that can be bought in our modern age, and shipped over in a few days. Many blacksmiths will have plenty of the stuff on hand, so only a half hour to set that up.

In the future most of that process will likely be simplified further, and fully automated, with many tools designed in a 3d modeling engine, and then forged to shape with some metal equivalent of 3d printing if what I have seen online is to be believed. A process that is simi planned out and only takes a few hours to make complex car parts.


Any questions? I realize I rambled a lot. But there was a lot of stuff to detail.
Self quoting is the key to sounding wise and all knowing.
  





User avatar
17 Reviews



Gender: None specified
Points: 550
Reviews: 17
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:21 pm
wafflewolf7 says...



Oh my God thank you so much! I don't know how you know so much about blacksmiths- but you're my savior!
  





User avatar
110 Reviews



Gender: Male
Points: 546
Reviews: 110
Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:17 am
View Likes
Zolen says...



I just gave a simplified step by step, there is more to it. But what I mentioned should be enough for a story. Its important to know that a blacksmith, even if you don't plan to go into too much detail about the process, will basically be an encyclopedia on the many different metals, alloys, and sub-metals. You might also want to look up blacksmith jargon, as an apprentice would use that at people more then an expert.

As for why I know what I do, youtube mostly.
Self quoting is the key to sounding wise and all knowing.
  





User avatar
16 Reviews



Gender: None specified
Points: 478
Reviews: 16
Sat May 11, 2019 1:14 am
ThePenultimateGinger says...



I may not know any more about smithing than what has already been stated, but I do take courses in metal fabrication and I weld frequently so I may be of help. Since welding and smithing often go hand-in-hand in modern times, here are some tips:

First off, don't underestimate the heat of the metal or of the fire because that stuff is HOT. We're talking up to 2000 degrees F. Gloves are a good idea. Another factor is the light and UV rays that stick/mig/tig/any type of arc welding puts off. Your character is going to need a helmet, or at least dark goggles, if they don't want to go blind. They might be sunburnt as a result of the UV. Also, the gasses that arc welders put off are bad news for the lungs. An older character who has been smithing for a long time would prolly have lung issues, unless they had a ventilation system to bring in new air. Elecricity can also be wack. Burns are common. Tongs are needed for picking up freshly welded items, when stick welding one needs to knock the slag off of the metal before striking another arc, otherwise it builds up and the electrode goes wack.

Hope this helps!
“I really think that everyone should have watercolors, magnetic poetry, and a harmonica.”
― Stephen Chbosky, The Perks of Being a Wallflower
  





User avatar
15 Reviews



Gender: Female
Points: 46
Reviews: 15
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:15 pm
Baezel says...



From a writing perspective, check out the videos on it, as blacksmithing makes fun, if niche interest videos. Search it on youtube and you'll be happy. I like using visual cues for writing about things I don't know, as that gives me more flexibility with imagery and stuff.
Here are some general metal work mayham videos I like, I've included a bit of engineering and everything. Because I am no expert in blacksmithing, and I don't know the actual overlap between any of these, I can't promise they'll be helpful, but given that you're setting it in the future you can be flexible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MUGIr85zfs : A mad, hobbiest engineer. Probably the least relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHS-61D2iEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XW-XdDe6j0 : Knife sharpening, it's theraputic.

From the top of my mind, I'm guessing it'd benefit a blacksmith to also be a bit of a chemist, an artist, and someone strong.
  








Owning our story can be hard but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it. Embracing our vulnerabilities is risky but not nearly as dangerous as giving up on love and belonging and joy—the experiences that make us the most vulnerable. Only when we are brave enough to explore the darkness will we discover the infinite power of our light.
— Brené Brown