Young Writers Society

*Relaxes in Switzerland with Meep and fragile_heart(!)*

two weeks ago, I didn't know they existed. Now, BELLA AND EDWARD FOREVER! (pun intended.)

I couldn't resist throwing my bit in.

I've practically done a study on Twilight. I've been on YWS for over a year, and found oodles of Twifans and anti-Twilighters alike. The Twifans's writing is nearly always repetitive and flat, not to mention most often in first-person, and the characters are without substance. I'm not trying to insult anyone, this's my honest opinion and I have the right to say it. Meanwhile, the anti-Twi's writing was mostly better, more inventive, and original. The characters were less Bella and Edward copies, and the plot-lines actually interesting.

Of course, most of you'll snicker, and think, She's just biased and wishes she could write as well as Steph can.

UNTRUE! Well, to some extent. I read Twilight around the time I first joined YWS. In fact, someone (it's unlikely, but still) might remember that at first, Stephenie Meyer was on my Favorite Authors list. My opinion, at that time? I never liked Bella beyond the occasional chuckle at her cliche, self-deprecating jokes. Edward always annoyed me some, although the allure of the perfect boyfriend was, to put it as Steph might, dazzling. I liked the plot-line okay, and it was sort of an addiction, for a while. Yes, I did like it.

But, wait. Stop. Rewind. Perfect boyfriend? Since when? If Bella hadn't had this fantastic blood, Edward never would have liked her! He never even would have noticed her, and this I can all but prove, because I read the draft of Midnight Sun on Stephenie Meyer's site after mostly extricating myself from Twilight's mundane clutches (more on that later). My point is, there really isn't anything about Bella to like, beyond her yummy blood. She's the stereotypical teenage girl, from her 'heart-shaped' face to her flat narrative. If Steph Meyer really was like that in high school (and I recall her admitting she was), then all I can say is that I feel for her friends. There never really is a clear reason for Edward to like Bella, and I'm not even going to start on the vampires-are-dead-how-the-hell-can-they-love thing.

I could go on like this for hours, but I think I'll skip that and say just one more thing. Even after I saw some reason (mostly from my lovely and smart older sisters) and started disliking Twilight (if not for the boring writing then because of the horrible example it sets for tween/teenage girls everywhere), I still harbored a sort of affection for the simple, sort of immature plot-line, and for the cliche-yet-loveable character that is Jacob Black - at least when you first really know him in New Moon. It was during those days of hating-but-still-sort-of-liking that series that I stumbled upon the first twelve chapters of Midnight Sun on Stephenie Meyer's official website.

So I read it. Or started, anyway. I got through a few chapters of Edward despising and then suddenly loving Bella before I had to stop. It was so boring! The parts that weren't him sitting in her bedroom at night staring at her beautiful heart-shaped face and wanting to run his hands through her silky brown hair tended to be of him thinking about sitting in her bedroom at night staring at her beautiful heart-shaped face and wanting to run his hands through her silky brown hair. I scrolled down to the ending of the last chapter (the twelfth, mind you), and it was pretty much the exact same slop, except now he actually could run his hands through her silky brown hair, because they were dating. Improvement? No, not really.

I gave Steph one last chance, of sorts. I pulled up my word-finder thing with a tap of Ctrl+F, and searched dazzling, icy, pale, and a few other words that seemed to keep popping up in the same places.

Let's just say I found way, way too many.

-SELA

Sela, you're my new BFF! I totally agree with you!

OMG!!! I love those books they are all so awsome!!!!!! I'm a Twi-hard Twilighter!!!!!!! My favorite out of all of them is New Moon!!!! I'm a total Team Jacob!!!!! I know I'm a little late on replying but I couldn't resist!!!!

PS: Jacob is sooooooooooooo mine!!!!! Edward rocks but Jacob rocks so much more!!!!!!!!

TWILIGHT!!!!
wookielover17

Ugh. Edwards annoying. Bella's got mental issues. Jacob's a wannabe indian stalker. Jaspers a friggin ghost. Alice is nothing more than a witch. And all of those other characters are nothing but losers. I don't know how anyone can stand Stephanie's writing. My opinion is that the human race (mainly females) obsess over change and cliche lovey crap. So when a writer changes one thing, everyone freaks out. I mean come on guys, seriously? Twilight? Vampire and Human cross? How can this happen? How can something dead make something alive? When Steph's books first came out, I have to admit it did keep my intriqued. After I read the series a second time, I was bored. Vampires should stay with Vampires. Just like in AVP. Aliens and Predators need to stay seperate or it causes a great deal of pain for our eyes. I am not trying to offend anyone, but it would be nice if everyone would stop freaking out about these books. They're words in hard cover. Nothing more.

*Shiny Vampires? What!?!?*

This is my own opinion and I'm stickin' to it and I presume that everyone else will be doing the same.

I think it's insane how much people love twilight.

Edward and Bella are both obssessed freaks. Breaking Dawn was just plain disgusting.

Yes, my dears, I actually read the whole series. They cost a hell lot and I was bought the hardbound copies and they would have been better use starting a fire than for reading.

I thought Twilight was ok. It was like VERY CLICHE chick lit with this weird sparkly vampires. But it was still bad. Compared to the other books it was ok though. New Moon felt like I was watching some kid groveling in a corner....

ugh.

I HATE THOSE BOOKS. They're a waste of paper.

Ok,so I read the whole saga God knows how many times. I really liked them and each time I read them I felt like it was the first time I was reading them. But as I read each of them I found some flaws (using the author's favorite word) and that was one of them, the word repetition and my favorite was Breaking Dawn, it's toatally cool. I liked Twilight because it intorduces the new favorite vamp, meaning "dazzling " Edward but besides that, nothing. It's all about Bella's extreme clumsiness and how "dazzled" she was, boring. Then, when I saw some critiques about it saying that it was plotless I almost broke the machine, but as I read the book over and over again, I had to agree, sadly .BUt still with lack of plot and everything, I like the story.
So this is the oreder in which I like them.
1. Breaking Dawn
2. New Moon
3. Eclipse
4. Twilight

I think it would have been a thing I would have adored a few years ago, had I read it then. I totally understand why people would love it, people love to fantasise about these things. I do, but just not about Twilight. I read the first one and didn't think it was that special. But I don't understand why people get so het up about it saying how terrible it is? It's just a book (a BAD book given, but think of the joy it's given to people).

Actually Jacob was revealed as a werewolf in New Moon.

I can't say I like Twilight (or the others) at all. I can sort of see the appeal as a beach read, but not as a, I don't know, real piece of literature.
I think everyone else pretty much made my points about the characters and the plot, (darn you guys are eloquent!) but my main problem is that Stephanie Meyer says that she doesn't "write meanings". But really, the messages that come across are things like, "Looks are the most important thing in a relationship", "Stalking is romantic, as long as the stalker is hot," etcetera.
Plus there's the fact that Bella and Edward, like, never ever grow as characters. Bella starts out a whiny clutz, and the ends a whiny clutz. Edward starts out, well, perfectgorgeousamazingperfecthotwonderfuldidImentionperfect, so what's to change there?

Lol, I love your post, Lucinda.

Oh my deary goodness! I gets to rant :OOOO
Yay!!

I read Twilight long before it became a trend. Like loooonnnnggg before.
So I believe to have a stronger uninfluenced opinion.

Seriously. Bad book. Seriously.
Though I have to hand it to Meyer that she managed to get a lot of non - readers to actually read. No matter how bad the book was. And she made quite a handsome lump of cash from it. So congrats to her for that.

But she is not a good writer, let alone a talented one. Her vocabulary is limited to one of a 15 year old. Her characters are stereotypical and one-dimensional. Her plot is long and boring. And her idea is just... blah.

I found Breaking Dawn absolutely repulsive. It was just...gross. Seriously, you have a teenage audience. No need to get that kind of stuff in their heads. And personally I find Edward to be a ceepy, not-to"dazzling" stalker. Jacob is an obessive friend soon to be stalker. and Bella's just... in a comic book she's be those stick character people throw around. Some silly rag doll that's in love with anything that's "supernatural" / creepos.

That's my opinion. Anyone else's is anyone else's, doesn't matter to me but I suggest subtly to read any book you want with a larger vocabulary range.

Her vocabulary is limited to one of a 15 year old.

I feel fifteen year old writers around the world cringing.
But seriously, you make some very good points. To be honest, I'm not sure I understand why anyone *enjoys* Twilight. (And Twilight had the steadiest plot of all four!)

I found Breaking Dawn absolutely repulsive. It was just...gross.

Oh, goodness, I agree with that. Especially it ticks me off because

By 15 year old. I meant she has the limited vocabulary of a child with a dictionary beside them. They find a smart looking word, write it down to look intelligent. Read the Oxford Literary Meanings book. *The Dictionary* It's a fantastic read. >.>

I apologize but the people of this site have a better vocabulary then a grade school teacher who just made a lot of mula. ($$$)