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Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:15 pm
If Pinocchio said that his nose was about to grow, would it?
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Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:20 pm
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If it weren't to grow, then he would be telling a lie and his nose would grow.
If it were to grow, then he'd be telling the truth and it wouldn't grow.
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Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:21 pm
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Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:22 pm
No. Because if it was a lie, it would grow, so he doesn't know for sure that it would grow, so then it would grow. But since his nose has to find a loophole and be spiteful, it won't grow, because it's not
a lie now, is it?
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Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:24 pm
No. Now, if he said
body part would grow longer...
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Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:34 pm
Yes. You don't have to technically be conscious of the fact that you're lying. Also, Pinocchio already knows about this lying thing with his nose, so he knows something's gonna happen now that he said that.
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Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:06 am
*stares dumbly at question for two days*
... I think I got it.
No because he'd have to lie to get his nose to grow, and when he tells you that hes not lying wait.... yea I think thats right.
Oh God I'm confused now.
(...I am Irish right?)
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Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:18 pm
His head would break. Why? Because the spell would overload from confusion and blow his own head up.
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:29 am
I never knew Pinocchio was a fan of circular logic.
And by the way, it's opposite day.
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Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:08 pm
I just had to see this thread, I know it's old. Sorry.
If Pinocchio said that, and it was a lie, it would grow anyway.
If it was true, it wouldn't grow because it wasn't a lie, but it would grow anyway thanks to the fact that it was true it was going to grow.
Basically, if it was a lie yes, and if it was the truth, yes.
Hope that wasn't too complicated.
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:07 am
Yup, it was complicated!
I make my own policies.
Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:28 pm
He would be as confused as the rest of us about it, so he wouldn't be sure what was going to happen. So saying "My nose is going to grow" with any confidence would be a lie. Just because his nose did grow wouldn't mean he was certain about it, so even though it did happen, he had no prior knowledge, so it would still be a lie, so yes, his nose would still grow.
Hmm, an analogy...
Okay, has anyone seen the trailer for Planet 51? The mother says "Take your medicine, or the big bad monster will get you." This is a lie. Just because the big bad monster stumbles through the door doesn't change the intentions behind what the woman said.
Of course, the more sensible answer to this question would be "No, because Pinnochio's nose doesn't grow any more. He's a real boy!"
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