Karzkin
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CowLogic There are no good or bad people. There is a vague collective cultural morality and sense of justice, yet everyone goes about it differently. The problem is, most go about it destructively, greedily, and violently, then teach their children to act in the same manner, which is why the oppression takes place.
Dec 31, 2014
Karzkin I understand why oppression exists in a meta sense. What I want to know is why people allow it to exist in a practical sense.
Jan 1, 2015
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Burrow That is low.
Dec 28, 2014
Karzkin Power level... rising...
Dec 28, 2014
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homophobia is not an opinion. transphobia is not an opinion. ableism is not an opinion. racism is not an opinion. these things just make you a bad person and you can’t defend them at all. i don’t want to talk to you if you think these things are okay, and i don’t care about your feelings if you’re upset that i’m mad at you for these things, because you obviously don’t care about the feelings of the people effected by it.
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“People of color, women, and gays — who now have greater access to the centers of influence that ever before — are under pressure to be well-behaved when talking about their struggles. There is an expectation that we can talk about sins but no one must be identified as a sinner: newspapers love to describe words or deeds as “racially charged” even in those cases when it would be more honest to say “racist”; we agree that there is rampant misogyny, but misogynists are nowhere to be found; homophobia is a problem but no one is homophobic. One cumulative effect of this policed language is that when someone dares to point out something as obvious as white privilege, it is seen as unduly provocative. Marginalized voices in America have fewer and fewer avenues to speak plainly about what they suffer; the effect of this enforced civility is that those voices are falsified or blocked entirely from the discourse.”
- Teju Cole
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deleted5 Mate I'm straight but I'm all for LGBT+ rights, I think the word is homophobe :S
Jun 24, 2014
Lumi your anger frightens me from a psychological health point of view. i really believe, and hear this on every level, you need help.
Jun 24, 2014
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Caesar also person who never messages me ;-;
May 16, 2014
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Pigeon I love how people can be like, let's have a calm and friendly discussion about whether or not you deserve basic rights and respect.
Apr 16, 2014
deleted5 ^^
May 28, 2014
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Lumi Can't argue with pheromones.
Apr 5, 2014
Lumi Though I'm sure someone would try.
Apr 5, 2014
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Omni MRAs?
Jun 3, 2014
Karzkin Men's rights activists (as they call themselves). A more accurate label is "organised misogynists".
Jun 3, 2014
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One day I'm going to read something in SD&D, and roll my eyes so hard I'll accidentally see my own brain.
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Lebensborn Well, I for one, am not an MRA at all. But the truth is that when speaking to feminists or about feminism, I am expected to feel guilty about being a man. Perhaps that's just myself project my own insecurities onto feminist ideals. But a lot of men are personally insulted by being told that "men are misogynistic".
If we cannot talk about these issues without scapegoating one side of the spectrum, people's feelings are going to get hurt.
We've been supporters of each other for a long time, it's a shame to see that our perceptions and respect for each other is crumbling because of one issue by which we are divided, and not divided in theory, but in practice.
/Sincerely, and old friend.
Jan 3, 2014
Karzkin But here's the thing: by and large, men ARE misogynistic. Even the most feminist, educated, informed, caring men are sometimes misogynistic. I am sometimes misogynistic. It's a product of being brought up in a patriarchal society, no one ever avoids it. Can you really tell me you can scour every tiny thing you do every day, and claim that you do nothing to oppress women? Even the way men walk down the street or sit on the bus is often misogynistic; we swing our arms and spread our legs because society tells us it's our right to take up as much space as we like. Women, on the other hand, and subtly told all the time that they have to take up as little space as possible. Next time you catch a bus look around and see just how many men unconsciously invade women's space, and how many women just let it happen. Men are misogynistic, no way around it. Feminism shouldn't make you feel guilty simply for being a man, but it definitely should make you feel guilty for exercising your male privilege on a daily basis, and you should feel guilty every time you don't take an opportunity to help take down the patriarchal system that we live in. Like Desmond Tutu said, if you're neutral, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.
Jan 3, 2014
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Pigeon I've kind of stopped even looking at the debates. Like, I go to the forum, look at the debate titles, and then I'm just like "nooops, I really do not want to see what some people have said in there."
Dec 2, 2013
Cadi Good to know I should keep up my policy of not touching the place with a bargepole...
Dec 3, 2013
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Dec 31, 2014