Karzkin

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LadySpark
Apr 13, 2015

I really enjoyed poem #10 of your NaPo.

Karzkin Aw thanks Yours are nice too, I like 12.
Apr 13, 2015

LadySpark Thank you, darling! <3
Apr 14, 2015
Lumi
Mar 22, 2015

<3
PenguinAttack
Feb 23, 2015

<3
Button
Jan 10, 2015

<3
Karzkin
Dec 31, 2014
Aet Lindling, LittleLee, WaterSpout

Ever notice that the folks on that respectability politics/tone policing stuff always say things like “acting that way isn’t going to convince anyone to support your cause”. 'Our cause' is asserting that oppressed people deserve the same dignity, safety, and respect that is afforded to those that oppress them. If you need to be convinced that those things needs to be supported then you’re a slimy, disgusting nightmare of a person and you should feel awful.

CowLogic There are no good or bad people. There is a vague collective cultural morality and sense of justice, yet everyone goes about it differently. The problem is, most go about it destructively, greedily, and violently, then teach their children to act in the same manner, which is why the oppression takes place.
Dec 31, 2014

Karzkin I understand why oppression exists in a meta sense. What I want to know is why people allow it to exist in a practical sense.
Jan 1, 2015

CowLogic Because they have been trained to by their perceived authority figures early on in life, and this oppressive culture is fostered throughout their lives by the media, advertisements, and the practical and governmental functions of society.

I'm just not really sure whether people have a choice of what to believe or how to think or if it is preordained by the causal mechanics of nature. I guess that, since we don't really know which is right, the most we can do is try really hard to bring a little light into the world and bring equality and moral revolution to the forefront of the global conversation and hope for the best.

And, like you said, maybe the best way to do it is to give the status quo a taste of its own medicine without the pseudo-required niceties of "respectability." There are other methods, but obviously each method will have weaknesses and reach/persuade different groups and audiences.

I don't think real change is ever brought about exclusively by peaceful disobedience and leading by example or being militant or forceful, but rather a combination of those things. The problem is that the revolution of values will inevitably let the same "morally gray" politics and hints of oppression in as it becomes too large.

But, that is the recursive, terrible nature of human life and society.
Jan 1, 2015

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Karzkin
Dec 27, 2014
LadySpark, Rubric

My life-force is sustained by straighty tears.

Burrow That is low.
Dec 28, 2014

Karzkin Power level... rising...

Dec 28, 2014

Burrow what
Dec 28, 2014

LadySpark story of my life
Dec 28, 2014

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Burrow
Dec 26, 2014

May you please stop calling people who are straight, straightes. One is is highly rude and offending, and you make it out like being straight is a bad thing. You want everyone do think that being homosexual is ok, then you need to accept the being straight is just fine. SO stop calling people straighties and use the proper term, as you would get cross if I called you gays, or gayboes, so stop it.

Karzkin Here's the thing though: people do call lgbt+ all sorts of horrible things. And then they assault us or kick us out of home or kill us. So here's a tip. You want lgbt+ people to be nicer to straighties? Instead of crying to us about your precious straight feelings, why don't you talk to the other straighties and stop them killing us? Maybe then we wouldn't hate y'all so much.
Dec 26, 2014

Burrow well, the fact is, not all "straightes" do that, I know many do, but many don't, and many try and stop it. So generalizing people is wrong. Hating people for there feelings is wrong, as I see it is wrong to hate you because you are homosexual. Why should you hate me?
Dec 26, 2014

Karzkin I'm not homosexual, check yourself. I'm bi. Generalising can save lives. How do I know which straighties are ok and which ones commit hate-crimes? Better assume all straighties are homophobes and maybe it'll save my life one day. And like I said, whatever lgbt+ people feel towards straight people is reactionary. Lgbt+ people, by and large, would just like to chill quietly. But no, straighties are constantly all up in our grill, and have been for centuries. We're angry over the actual, real harm and pain that straighties cause lgbt+ people on a daily basis. So like I said, take it up with your fellow straighties. Get them off our backs, and we'll stay off yours.
Dec 27, 2014

Burrow That is discrimination in itself, saying that every straight person is out to get you, when in fact a lot are not, I am not. Many more are as well. You are generalizing almost 90% of the world, correct me if I am wrong, but the majority of the population are straight, and you are saying that everyone one of them is out to kill you, to you know what goes in those peoples brains, billions of people, there are a lot of different views. There are many things people kill for, you shouldn't be scared of everyone, should I walk down the street I think everyone person I walk by is a serial killer. Because almost all of them wont be. Just because some people in a race are know to rob, or steal, doesn't mean the whole race will. Just because there is higher rate of crimes in the black community doesn't mean that they will all do it. generalizing straight people, saying there stupid whites out to kill me is wrong.

I am sorry that I called you homosexual, by the way what is bi?
Dec 27, 2014

Karzkin Bi is bisexual; it means you like your gender as well as other genders. Also, read my post: I didn't say all straighties are going to hurt lgbt+ people. But there is a frightening number of straighties who will hurt lgbt+ people, and we can't tell which ones are safe and which ones are dangerous. Put it this way: In the US about one in 240 cis (non-transgender) people are murdered. One in 12 transgender people are murdered. That means a trans person is twenty times more likely to be murdered than a non-trans person. That's two-thousand percent. If the likelihood of my life ending in murder suddenly increased by 2000% I would never leave my house again. But trans people still go about their lives, even though that's the threat they face on a daily basis. I don't think you appreciate the danger that lgbt+ people live in constantly. But trust me, lgbt+ people appreciate it. And when the odds of being assaulted or murdered are that high it's easy to understand why lgbt+ people are constantly on guard against straighties. Not all straighties are lgbt+ killers, but we have no way of telling the good ones apart from the bad ones.
Dec 27, 2014

Burrow That is true, but all I ask you is to stop using the word straightes.
Dec 27, 2014

Karzkin As a matter of principle: no.
Dec 27, 2014

Burrow I ask you one more time, may you please not use that word, it is rude, and disrespectful to many people.
Dec 27, 2014

Karzkin No. As long as straighties on this site continue to constantly use homophobic language, I'll continue to constantly hurt their poor straighty feelings.
Dec 27, 2014

Burrow Well I don't, so don't call me it, and saying straight out you want to hurt peoples feelings, that buts you in the bad mate.
Dec 28, 2014

Karzkin Lmao nope, a) you ARE a straighty, b) homophobia is institutional and all straighties inherently contribute to it, including you, c) reactionary anger is in no way comparable to the oppression that causes that anger in the first place, d) as far as I can tell you've done nothing to dismantle the homophobia that plagues this site, you haven't called out a single homophobe, so why would I do anything for you?, and e) I crave your straighty tears, they sustain my life-force.
Dec 28, 2014

Burrow You are very ignorant to how the world works. It isn't black and white, just because someone doesn't help you does not mean that you should hate them. Also you have called me homophobic before just because I disagreed with homosexuality etc. You need to get your facts straight, and stop being so rude.
Dec 28, 2014

Karzkin No, you don't understand how oppression works. It's not about two people or a small group. It's about the whole of society, both presently and historically. And it is black and white. Those who do nothing choose the side of the oppressor. Those who do nothing are complicit in their silence. Either you are staunchly anti-homophobia, or you're homophobic. There is no neutral. Same goes for racism, sexism, transphobia, etc. If you're not fighting to change the system, you're a part of the system. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. So yeah, you are a homophobe. Saying things like "I disagree with homosexuality" doesn't really help your case either. Like I've always said, I'll stop being rude to straighties when all the homophobes vanish. Don't like it? Call out a homophobe and maybe you'll speed up the process. Until then keep crying straighty tears, I just can't get enough.
Dec 28, 2014

Burrow Really, just because someone disagrees with you, you want them to disappear of the face of the earth. Can you tell me why you hate straight people so much, if you want to have your vewis on homosexuality, why cant I. I believe the world is not black and white, I want to know why you are so strong on this. Can you tell me what has made you hate me so much, hate people who disagree with you, also some people don't get the chance to stand up against discrimination.
Dec 28, 2014

Karzkin It's not about disagreement. It's about oppression. Lgbt+ people don't get kicked out of home, fired from their jobs, disowned by their families, beaten, or murdered because of """disagreement""". You truly do not realise what is at stake here. You truly do not understand the struggle the lgbt+ people face every single day. You truly do not understand the threat that society poses to all lgbt+ people. You truly do not understand how you yourself are a part of it. I'm strong on this because it is my life and the lives of many of my friends that are threatened by homophobia. We literally die because of this. And then people like you come along and cry about your hurt feelings, and how much lgbt+ people hurt you. Like, are you joking? Or do you just have absolutely zero self-awareness? What is your damage, man?
Dec 28, 2014

Burrow I understand that in many times your life is threatened, but so is many other peoples lives, we all have people who hate us.

And then people like you come along and cry about your hurt feelings, and how much lgbt+ people hurt you. Like, are you joking? Or do you just have absolutely zero self-awareness? What is your damage, man?

I have bloody self awareness mate, I am not joking, I know this is a very serious topic, you want people to support you, you want people to help you, you want people to listen, stop calling them names, stop being rude, let them get there point across, if you want yours do. I understand that Lgbt+ communtie are killed because of discriminations, but so are many people throughout history, the Jews were, Christians are, Muslims are, it happens, and it needs to stop, but going and calling people straightes doesn't help, you say we don't help you, how do you know we don't. I actively stand against discrimination of any kind. But I am aloud my views, saying I disagree with homosexuality doesn't mean I am discriminative, it means I have my blasted views you get it.

The whole society isn't out to get you, people disagree with it, because that is there views, there are people who are selfless who kill you, they are the bad people, not the people who disagree with what you are doing. And again society posses a threat to all people, not just lgbt+ people, we all face our own problems.
Dec 28, 2014

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CowLogic
Dec 22, 2014

Who's your favorite jazz saxophonist?

Karzkin Tough question. Probably John Coltrane or Wayne Shorter. Chris Potter is up there too. Why do you ask?
Dec 22, 2014

CowLogic Curiosity. Those are some good ones. I would add C. Adderly as well. Good era overall.
Dec 22, 2014

Karzkin Eh, I'm more into post bop. Ornette, Pharoah Sanders, etc. Not that Cannonball is bad, just not my taste.
Dec 23, 2014

CowLogic I feel you. I'm not really experienced enough in jazz to have a clear favorite era/style, I kind of take it as it comes. Chick Corea was post-bop, right (not saxophone, but)?
Dec 23, 2014

Karzkin Chick Corea plays piano. He was active in the seminal post bop period, but he's better known for his fusion stuff (especially with Miles Davis). If you're looking for post bop pianists, McCoy Tyner is the place to start.
Dec 23, 2014

CowLogic No, I mean Chick Corea was what initially got me into jazz, actually. I'll have to check the Tyner guy out.
Dec 23, 2014

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SoundsOfLife
Dec 6, 2014

Hello Karz, remember me buddy?
Perhaps not... I'm the Chemtrail conspiracy theorist from a few years back that you ran off the serious topics page of YWS.
I been going around to notice that you're an amazing person, amazing in a lot of different ways like being persistent on making harsh comments to other members comments on this wonderful site.
Whats the point of me saying this to you since how everyone here knows what I just pointed out? Because I'm worried about you man, yes I called you a man, I know your gender emblem says that you're a girl but I know that you're a guy. I'm worried that you're feeling left out from the crowd, therefor making you want to stand out a little bit more than others by making harsh comments on the serious topic pages and other places on YWS just so you can make yourself heard. I just want you to know that... we love you Karzkin, all of us do so vary much, even the ones that hate your guts.
Just thought I would shine a little light on your gloomy days, not just me, but all of us here man!
WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH KARZKIN!
We're here for you, if you need anyone to talk to I'm here for you dude, I'm online almost every evening.
Take care! ^_^

Karzkin I remember you. Thanks for the sentiment I guess, but that's not what I need. What I need is all the homophobes off this site (and ideally, off this planet).
Dec 7, 2014

SoundsOfLife I do understand why you're so upset when it comes to 'homophobes' making fun of you for who you, or mocking and hurting you with words of unkindness, it's so unfair! But do you know what's even worse than people hurting you with rude and unkind words? What's worse is people like you who have no one to talk to about life with and to share your feelings with, I say this because so many members of this great site has told me about you and your feelings, and I do feel sorry for you, and I even kind feel bad in a way for the things I thought about you. I use to think you were such a jerk and a know it all, but know I know, and feel sorry for you man.
Dec 7, 2014
Rubric
Dec 5, 2014

Looking back at it, I knowingly baited you on the debate thread, and I apologize for that.

Karzkin No hard feelings. Our little tit-for-tat thing is actually starting to grow on me.
Dec 5, 2014
Snoink
Nov 15, 2014
Rosendorn, emeraldfox, Rubric, Iggy

Just remember... FH8 is pro-LGBT. That is, if the BT part stands for "buy t-shirts."

(That is what it means, isn't it?)

Karzkin haaaaahahahaha yes that's exactly it.
Nov 15, 2014
Sean
Nov 2, 2014

Karz, in response to your comments left on my profile page, I believe there is a book you would benefit from reading - 'On Offence: The Politics of Indignation'. Here's what the publishers have to say about it...
One of the books of the year … an intellectual map for our times’
MARTIN FLANAGAN, Saturday Age
A lively and passionate defence of reasoned debate

Everyone has taken and given offence; anyone who claims they haven’t is either lying or uniquely tolerant. Yet in recent years, offence has become more than an expression of annoyance — it’s now a form of political currency. Politicians and religious leaders have mastered the art of indignation to motivate their supporters or deflect unwanted attention, and the news cycle has become increasingly dominated by reports on these tiny tempests.

In this provocative account, Richard King explores how the politics of offence is poisoning public debate. With hurt feelings being paraded like union banners, we’ve ushered in a new mood of censoriousness, self-pity, and self-righteousness. Unofficial censorship has even led to official censorship; blowing the dust off old blasphemy laws, we are moving forward into the past. Yet King contends that freedom of speech is meaningless without the freedom to offend, and that the claim to be offended should be the beginning of the argument, not the end of it.

Politeness is a noble quality, and decorum will always have its place. But when respect comes at the cost of honest criticism, it’s time for us to think again.

Reviews

‘An extended essay of uncommon eloquence and brio.’
GEORDIE WILLIAMSON, The Australian
‘I dare say a great many people will be offended by Richard King’s On Offence. Good. They can take a deep breath, count to ten, pull themselves together, and come to terms with what King convincingly demonstrates is integral to the functioning of civil society. This is a calm, clever, and lucid book.’
GIDEON HAIGH
‘Richard King is one of the most interesting of the new generation of Australian journalist/critics.’
CLIVE JAMES

On Offence - Scribe Publications

PenguinAttack It might be interesting to you, Sean, to know that Australia doesn't have free speech laws. So the jargon and rhetoric around 'free speech' may not be of any interest to Karzkin.

I find the idea that you should be allowed to be offensive terribly interesting. And wrong. There is no reason I or anyone else should have to listen to someone else's offensive opinions just because they have them.
Nov 3, 2014

Karzkin This whole thing illustrates the wider point perfectly. It's not, nor ever has been, about what is offensive. Hurt feelings aren't really a big deal to me. What is a big deal to me is the culture that your sort of speech fosters. anti-trans rhetoric might hurt the feelings of trans people, but it also incites transphobes to hatred and violence, often to the point of torture and murder of trans people. That is a big deal to me. This isn't about political correctness; it's about the lives of real people that are lost every single day because of transphobes like you and the culture you foster.
Nov 4, 2014

Sean Penguin, I’m not sure what you mean. Firstly, it is not obvious as far as I can tell that Karzkin is from Australia - a level of prescience simply beyond me – but even irrespective of that, these are universal cultural terms, it’s broadly applicable to the entire political sphere of the Western world, certainly of the self-identified liberal socialist left-wing, such as yourselves, who do as the book suggests and that’s use the concept of offense and the context of being offended as a rebuke for greater and greater reaches of discussion. Again, I’m just not sure what you mean – why would Australian laws suddenly make this topic ‘of no interest’ to Karzkin? Very insular outlook if you ask me… also, what jargon, what rhetoric? I really have no idea as to what you refer.

And, your second paragraph is exactly the point of the argument put forward by the author, and precisely why the whole subject is so toxically powerful: it imbues a subject, an argument, a thought, an idea, a person, a group, a ‘side’, it imbues them with unshakeable dogmatic righteousness. Because the possibility of being offended is SO heinous, you are automatically entitled to ‘[have] no reason… to listen to somebody else’s opinion’, which to my mind, in the pursuit of knowledge, discussion, debate, understanding, reason, logic, fact; is quite a scary position to steadfastly embed oneself indeed.

Karzkin, I’m really not sure that’s an honest reflection of your view there, that ‘Hurt feelings aren’t a big deal’; otherwise if what you’re saying is true, and that you cannot separate the reasoned, conscientious, courteous, inquisitive, open, good-natured heart of an intellectual debate/discussion from ‘hatred/violence/torture/murder’ then you are simply blinded by irrationality, and how is anyone supposed to get a fair deal when it comes to your scathing venom? If merely expressing an opinion not in keeping with your own is tantamount to torture and murder in your mind, well then of course you will react with fury every time such an opinion confronts you. Trying to connect violence suffered by trans people and the notion of ‘transphobia’ with me and my views is simply cowardly, it’s a cowardly way to evade discussion by evoking emotion, by putting the image in people’s minds of violence, torture and murder where my opposing views are, thus unquestionably giving you a moral high ground, and me an ultimatum of surrender or stigma: because if I don’t change my view I am, by proxy, supporting transphobia and violence against trans people.

I am not, have not, do not and never will. And I shall say it again: it’s simply cowardice on your behalf to try and argue such.
Nov 11, 2014

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Karzkin
Sep 29, 2014
windrattlestheblinds, EmilyWright, emeraldfox, Editor, Iggy

homophobia is not an opinion. transphobia is not an opinion. ableism is not an opinion. racism is not an opinion. these things just make you a bad person and you can’t defend them at all. i don’t want to talk to you if you think these things are okay, and i don’t care about your feelings if you’re upset that i’m mad at you for these things, because you obviously don’t care about the feelings of the people effected by it.
Karzkin
Sep 23, 2014
LadySpark, Corncob, Editor

Still he/him/his, thanks for asking.
Snoink
Sep 6, 2014
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Thought of you!

Karzkin I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. Bush jr is a scumbag, sure, but I'm pretty sure he's not literally a nazi. It actually kind of upsets me when people accuse not-really-nazis of being nazis, because there ARE actual, for-reals nazis around, and doing this diminishes the danger that fascists actually do represent.
Sep 6, 2014

Snoink Oh snap... sent you the wrong link. That was for somebody else who was actually American (and thus actually cares about those things and how our politics goes). Sorry about that!

This is the correct link! You'll find it actually relevant to your life. XD

Also, if people are making full-length feature films about chain letters and getting a killing from all the profits, I think I am going to make a film about Nigerian princes...
Sep 6, 2014

Karzkin Lmao hahahaha yeah. So accurate it hurts.
Sep 6, 2014

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