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Corvid I AM SO HERE FOR THE FRIENDS SLANDER BLUE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND
Feb 2, 2023
ChesTacos i like les mis :c
but i agree with u on dolittle
Feb 2, 2023
BluesClues @Corvid like listen I watched Friends when it airedbc I am oldand like I enjoy it despite the fact that it's problematic in many ways BUT ROSS. I HAVE MORE AND MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT ROSS EVERY TIME I WATCH THE SHOW. I COULD WRITE A DOCTORAL THESIS ABOUT HOW MUCH ROSS SUCKS
@ChesTacos oh I like Les Mis too! I just can't stand *Javert*
Feb 2, 2023
Quillfeather How DARE you say such a thing about jevert >:(
Have you watched Javerts suicide l. What a sad song, why do you dislike him??(not actually offended )
Feb 2, 2023
BluesClues @Quillfeather ironically I do actually love his songs BUT YES I HAVE WATCHED HIS SUICIDE AND I'M NOT SAD. he literally kills himself because he can't bear to live in a world where people can?? grow?? and change?? and become better?? and show mercy?? MISS ME WITH THAT, SIR.
Feb 2, 2023
Quillfeather Okay yeah
But I think he kills himself because he realizes he never made the right choice, he made a mistake because Veljohn was actually a good person and this truth he has lived by his whole life was wrong. Basically he can't live with himself because what he has spent his life doing. He actual DID change as he was a prisoner and whatnot before he swore to the law.
"You know nothing of jevert
I was born inside a jail,
I was born with men like you
I am gutter too"
Also
"Dare you talk to me of crime, or the price you had to pay, every man is born in sin, everyman must choose his way. " These lines are easy to miss but it kinda sums up his original ideals that he later throws out.
And can we mention how javet gives his badge to gavroche when he dies.
Just because he made bad choices once in his life and lived by them, but repented in the end doesn't mean we have to hate him forever. But, you can absolutely have your own opinion and I hope this doesn't sound rude at all
Feb 2, 2023
BluesClues @Quillfeather I don't think he WAS a criminal, I read "I was born inside a jail" literally - he was literally born to a woman who was imprisoned. He grew up with the poor and downtrodden and imprisoned and should have some sympathy toward Valjean for stealing bread because his family was starving, yet he doesn't.
...sorry in advance, I have an English degree and you're about to see me use it because this got very long XD Sorry. Gonna spoiler this! I just say my opinion on Javert is unpopular because when the movie came out EVERYONE loved him and I...do not.
Following is my reading of Javert's character, focusing on the suicide song since you mentioned that one as well (but also looking at "Stars," which I think summarizes his worldview early on). (I also love "Stars" even though I hate the message lmao.)Spoiler! :
...thank you for coming to my TED Talk whoops
Feb 2, 2023
BluesClues Y'know I said THAT was long, but I guarantee if I were talking about how terrible Ross from Friends is...it'd be way longer X'D
Feb 2, 2023
WaffleCat you're right about Ed being beautiful without the beard and you should say it
also give me the 1000 part essay on why ross sucks, kthx
Feb 2, 2023
BluesClues @WaffleCat no we will seriously literally be here forever, yeah I TALK about how I don't like Javert, but ROSS--
Like tbh in Javert v. Ross I am firmly on the side of Javert, at least he gets some beautiful songs--
Feb 2, 2023
Quillfeather Some very important points and I actually quite enjoyed reading it even though I normally can't with long stuff. I think the main difference between veljean and Javerts is the way they delt with trauma. Jevert kinda took it in a way that justice in the world is built up on punishment of wrong doer's and veljean took it to where he felt like all should be forgiven. I'm not saying Javerts actions were right but I feel like there is so much character growth with him and really shows what a traumatic event can do to a person. I also feel like his quest if seeking those for a punishment is a way to hide his pain. But you make some good points. I actually only watched it once and wasn't really able to pay attention because things... But Me and my brother used to always sing the confrontation and I would always sing Javerts part so maybe I am just coming from that point of view
Feb 2, 2023
BluesClues @Quillfeather the confrontation is EXCELLENT, I love the countermelodies!
...dang, @WaffleCat asking the hard questions
hmmm
well I know Ross is at the end
but who wins, Javert or Izzy
hmmmmMMMMMMMMmmmmm
Feb 2, 2023
WaffleCat @BluesClues gotta admit, seeing it written out like that now has me wondering which one of them would win in a fight. Like, Ross would be doomed but Javert versus Izzy...
Feb 2, 2023
BluesClues Oh Ross would DEFINITELY be doomed but not because he sucks, just because he has no physical skill to speak of.
Javert's on the side of the law and has also been a soldier I'm p sure, but Izzy's been a pirate so?? but Javert is also bigger lmao so sorry Izzy but your tininess may defeat you--
Feb 2, 2023
Nate Absolutely agreed on Ross. He's always whining, he's the most stuck-up, and, worst of all, he has a son that he always forgets about. I'd also argue he's the only one to show negative character growth over the course of the series in terms of career success.
Read a good fan theory once that the reason we don't see Ben a lot, or even hear about him, after season two or three is that Carol had his parental rights revoked. After witnessing his increasingly psychotic behavior and unstable personal life, she went to court to have his custody & visitation rights revoked, and ensured that when he does spend time with Ben, there is always another person present.
Feb 2, 2023
BluesClues OH MY GOSH that would make so much sense??? Because it does literally feel like he forgets about Ben...but he definitely gets worse over the course of the series, so I would super be on Carol's side if she had his parental rights revoked.
Feb 2, 2023
Feb 2, 2023
Dolittle (2020)
But I'm also aware that for many people, Eddie Murphy's "Dr. Dolittle" (1998) is the only frame of reference, like people were confused by the not-modern setting of "Dolittle." But. "Dolittle" AND Eddie Murphy's "Dr. Dolittle" AND Rex Harrison's "Doctor Dolittle" (1967) are all based on Hugh Lofting's Doctor Dolittle books, the first of which was published in 1920.
So, like. It's not that Robert Downey Jr.'s was weird or out of place for being set in the past - Eddie Murphy's was a modernization of the source material.
Les Mis (2012)
Our Flag Means Death (2022)
Also, I can't stand Izzy. He is not my uwu babygirl. I love Con O'Neill, but I wish Izzy a very merry go away. If they want to give him a redemption arc, maybe I'll change my mind, but I actually don't like him at all and wish the crew's mutiny had finished before Ed returned.
Also also, far from grieving the loss of Ed's magnificent beard...I think he's totally beautiful without it.
Friends (1994)
Also lol @ every article that's like "the character of Joey didn't age well" when Barney Stinson was created *20 years later* and is far worse, jfc.
Also also, imagine complaining about *Joey* when ROSS IS RIGHT THERE.
Also also also, Emily deserved better and is not the evil witch everyone makes her out to be.
Twilight (2005)
That said, while I'm not a fan by any stretch of the imagination...
- It's a great injustice that movie!Bella deprived us of all the hoodies book!Bella constantly wears
- I know it came a few years later, but it's an even greater injustice that the movie had Bella researching vampires on a sleek macbook with good wifi instead of using a shitty old box of a home computer that was hooked up to dial-up
- I remember when the movies came out that hardcore fans complained that Kristen Stewart "wasn't pretty enough to play Bella" (lol???), but even then I was like ...I read the books, isn't the point that Bella ISN'T gorgeous, she's just an average girl? But go off I guess
Okay, back to complaints lololol.
- Midnight Sun was largely terrible and boring
- Life & Death PISSED ME THE HELL OFF, how are you gonna make me sit through a c/p of the entire original book to ~show me it wouldn't change if it were genderbent~ (which is laughable anyway since Stephenie Meyer is CLEARLY a biological essentialist??) AND THEN CHANGE THE ENTIRE ENDING WTF
- The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner is better than the original franchise except oh my god Stephenie for the love of all that is good and holy I am BEGGING you to use chapter or scene breaks?? an entire novella and not one natural stopping point. thanks, I hate it
Anyway if you're looking for more of my thoughts on Twilight, I livetweeted my re-read of the first book, my read of Midnight Sun AND Life & Death, and my watchthrough of all the films.
Twilight (book)
Midnight Sun
Life & Death
Twilight (movie)
New Moon (movie)
Eclipse (movie)
Breaking Dawn (movie)
The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner
...I think I had more, but then I said all that about Twilight and had to go find my links and now I forget the rest. But that is. probably enough XD
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