Young Writers Society

This is a thread for talking about the main story mode, including the story and gameplay.

Anything involving parts of the story up to the latest update on the English version is fair game. So if you haven't played all the way there, there could be spoilers! If you want to have a discussion but you have not played all the available chapters, please talk to the admin and we can figure something out.

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At the creation of this thread, TWST is up to Chapter 5: The Beautiful Tyrant.

Two things that I just remembered I've been wanting to express for a while:
1) I just KNEW there was something up from the beginning with Grim eating those floor stones! He really just mauled us over a rock. But just watch have only been a dream for now since it's only Chapter 5... (unfortunately I got a wisp of a spoiler of where this is going--that and the vision we get while talking to Mickey).

2) Every time Mickey shows up in the mirror, I get creeped out. (Now that they revealed him, it's fine, of course.) The way the mirror glows and blobs of his shadow are floating beyond the haze while the MC decides it's a good idea to get closer is like the moment in a scary movie where the characters are about to make a bad choice and you want to tell them to just run in the opposite direction.

Suddenly just thought, what happened to those random students at the end of Chapter 3 whose entire powers got sucked away by Azul before he overblotted? Like did they ever get those back??

So, I've had this thought ever since I started the game and finished Chapter 1, but there really is no consequence for doing bad things huh? It's all just kept hush-hush by everyone, whether it's to keep up NRC's image or to 'protect' the person who did the actions. For example, the destructive (potential) results of overblotting and other things that some students did.

If this was our world, the extremity of those things would warrant disciplinary action by the school if not expulsion, and it would be reasonable to get the police involved in some cases, like when in Chapter 2 Leona and Ruggie went around secretly physically assaulting a lot of students. Or in Chapter 4 where Jamil was controlling Kalim to do things against his will and gaslighting him (it's hard for me to think of what this could be irl since we don't have magic hypnosis and I don't know a lot about criminal classifications, but this definitely is an ethical disaster at the least). Or in Chapter 5 when Vil tried to murder Neige, if anyone had decided to report him. But I guess since all these boys are protagonists and based off villains and have sad backstories, it's apparently fine in Twisted Wonderland. Everyone's just happy together after they almost died every chapter. And solved these catastrophes without any ADULTS to help them.

Also, with overblotting in general, I could understand if they wouldn't give them jail time or something like that for it, since it could be an accident, but surely it would make sense to have them under magic probation or limit their magic somehow for a period of time to make sure they're recovered/under control and won't do it again. Because the ramifications of overblotting are massive, as they seem to say EVERY time someone overblots. Like, idk, potentially killing a whole bunch of people and destroying the whole school? Oh, and potentially killing oneself from using way too much magic?

Anyways that's my rant, haha. I generally accept it, since that's just how the story goes, but when I think about it, I just think of more and more points that are problematic in this regard. :') I wonder if NRC's gonna get exposed for all these scandals one day.

Up to Book 6 Discussion starts now!



As I said before...

Everyone's just happy together after they almost died every chapter.

So, looks like the Wish Upon a Star event takes place after Book 6 (if we even believe that they exist on the same timeline...)

Long thought dump about Book 6 ahead:


The first half of Book 6 was very solid.

I liked how Vil took responsibility for what happened at the SDC, and it made me gain a lot more respect for him. Also, I think I already was a little influenced in that direction before, but Rook's VA combined with his crazy mindset has made me like that weirdo even more than before. There's just something about him that's funny. He ran away from school and risked his life just to give Vil his skincare...

I can't believe that Styx's method is to just blow up a whole place and then do damage control later by wiping everyone's memories. I don't know, I feel like that's not a very foolproof method, even if River Lethe is supposed to be so advanced. It is NRC we're dealing with here. Was Styx going to fix up the entire campus or were they just going to let everyone believe that something SOMEHOW managed to breach the wards around the school and destroyed the stables and Ramshackle?

Seeing an analysis of the overblot crew's different strengths and weaknesses/personality was cool. Their bickering with each other was also super entertaining. The part with Grim thinking about how he mauled us and crying made me sad. At this point, I thought that Ortho was so cute (as always) and Idia was annoying with his both condescending and self-deprecating snarky attitude (as always). It was very cool how they turned the Titans and bad guys from Hercules into the Phantoms for TWST--very creative.

Also, Azul gains so many layers the more I see of him. He's investing in stocks and studying the stock market at his age?? He's sure doing better than me in that department.


As for the second half, it really took the cake. Of course, it's riding on the shoulders of all the books that came before it, but I think this made Book 6 the best book in the main story so far in terms of lore, story, and gameplay. I would have liked to see more Twistunes, but I guess that's kind of hard in a death trap environment.

One thing that does somewhat detract from this book, for me, is that it took a lot of creative liberties with the source material (or maybe I'm wrong, since I'm relatively unfamiliar with Hercules among the many animated Disney movies). There were some books that were a little truer to the movies, like Book 1 and Book 4 (probably Book 3 and Book 5 too). But I guess the focus here was more on worldbuilding and the characters' emotions/motivations that may have reflected the villains' thoughts.

Epel's Signature Spell/Unique Magic!!!!

Anyways, things got sinister really fast. I'm still confused why Ortho got so fixated on "zero not staying zero" and getting lured to the Underworld, or why Idia so quickly jumped on board when he had no indications of doing so before (yes, I know, his brother suddenly appeared before him and they had a sad existence stuck on the Isle of Woe). I'm also confused about the "real Ortho." Did the Phantoms kill him and therefore absorb his essence/memories, or something like that, so that he basically became a Phantom/the Underworld when the escaped Phantoms were sent all the way down there? It makes me think that that WAS the real Ortho, not just a Phantom trick, since AI Ortho said at the end that he could feel a warmth inside and that the real Ortho was within him. But how does that work?? Like how did he become a Phantom?? And how did Idia overblot if he has the ability to burn up blot? Like was being connected to the Ortho Phantom enough blot to overtake the speed at which he burns blot? And how did they get connected in the first place? How does that even work? And how did the AI Ortho merge with the real/Phantom Ortho?

Out of all the overblot designs so far, I've got to say that Idia's was the only one that was genuinely freakish/scary to me, especially with the mouth light mask. That's just my opinion--I'm sure some people thought it looked really cool (and it was designed well for sure). But as for me, I kind of didn't even want to look at him while he was overblotted because he scared me. In comparison, the rest ranged from cool (Leona) to extremely questionable (Jamil). But mostly questionable.

Based on the overblot situation, I am thinking that it's not only Idia who is meant to represent Hades from Hercules, but that it's both Idia and Ortho together. In some ways, you could say that Ortho is an extension of Idia, so they're like one person? Plus Ortho was Idia's Phantom. Package deal, anyways.

I really liked the chapters of the groups splitting up and traveling down the towers. Actually, I was a little concerned by how easy it was for me to beat all the boss fights, lol. But the difference was that I've been waiting for several months, leveling up like crazy for this, whereas for all the previous books, I was leveling up as I went since I was new to the game. (Thanks to Mageheart, I was able to prepare for this part well! Through some special free deals/events in the Shop and short pulls at the Mirror, I was able to collect the Dorm SSRs for Riddle and Azul to add to my Dorm SSR Leona and Vil and SSR Birthday Boy Jamil. Actually, in regular play, this combination suits each other really well because they can all do Duo Magic with each other!) It was definitely something new and fun.

It was funny how Vil & co were having such a wholesome time talking about how Vil and Rook met (Savanaclaw boy), while Leona and Jamil were just getting on each other's nerves and Riddle and Azul were bickering about their skills the entire time. I think the Riddle and Azul banter was some of the most entertaining to me. Maybe it's because I'm so partial to Jamil, but I didn't like how Leona just totally ripped apart Jamil's whole character. (He is my third favorite character after Floyd and Jamil, but...) Leona is Leona, I guess, and it fits with his arrogant and blunt attitude. There was some merit to what he said, especially about Jamil's inferiority complex, but personally, I didn't quite get the vibes off of Jamil that he looked down on *everyone* in the past. Maybe he just hid it well . . . or I was blinded by my dark-red-tinted glasses? Lol.

That being said, I kind of already indicated it in the earlier section, but I think that Idia is one of my least favorite characters in the game, and this book proved it to me. Maybe it is that I'm just a "normie" and I don't "get" him, like he would probably say, but his attitude and mannerisms rub me the wrong way. That's not to say that many other characters don't have attitude problems (oh boy, just look at Leona), but his brand of attitude misses the mark for me, I suppose. I thought to myself during the gameplay, "Man, I thought Riddle was a brat (and he still kind of is), but Idia is so condescending and self-pitying." His backstory is super tragic, and I think is there to serve as an explanation for his behavior, but somehow, out of all the books, it fell flat for me? Not the part about Ortho dying, that was sad. Mainly, I mean how he suddenly grew so snarky and self-pitying when in the backstory it mostly showed him feeling sad and desperate, blaming himself, unwilling to accept the reality that Ortho was gone. I think it should have shown him at least being a little like that by the end once he unveiled the AI Ortho? It definitely is his defense mechanism against perceived threats from other people, but they never showed him being so scared of socializing with others in the backstory (but then, I guess he never got the chance to make friends anyways).

I was also wondering why Ortho suddenly got so evil, but I guess it's because he merged with the Phantom.

Also, if the Shrouds can't leave the Isle of Woe, why can he go to school? Or does it just mean that they are bound to the island as a family to protect the world from the Phantoms, like in the way that Idia had to go home when his parents left the Isle?

The final fight where the overblot crew tag-teamed was really epic. You could make a whole movie just out of Book 6, seriously. And I'm sorry, but Vil turning old was hilarious. I was not expecting that at all--I actually got a couple of tiny spoilers before (like Leona throwing Jamil's hair ornament), but I'm surprised that I didn't manage to see that Vil got turned old at all. Him starting to cry about being old after giving such a protagonist speech about it not mattering and being the hero and the fairest one of all is such a Vil move.

I'm convinced that Grim managed to eat the corrupted magestone of the Idia/Ortho Phantom. And that's how he got Ortho's memory card stuck in his throat. It's gonna go downhill from here buddy But Grim crying and us hugging him really made me go, "Yeah, you're my menace." He was so annoying to me at the beginning, but he's precious in moments like these.

What's with Mickey? Only MC and Mickey can see each other and no one else can. What is his significance in all of this? My minor conspiracy theory (jokingly) is that Grim is Twisted Wonderland's version of an evil Mickey, hahaha. Or maybe WE'RE Twisted Wonderland's Mickey and Grim is our Pluto, lol.

Malleus is sure acting sus. It's definitely going to be some sort of issue about him being afraid of losing the people he loves. He absolutely fears that Lilia is going to die soon based on his cryptic words.

Anyways, those are my thoughts on Book 6. I don't know if they made any sense since I kind of just let them flow as I went, but that's that. I promise that, as much as I seem to trash on certain plot points or characters, I do like the game very much and I think every character plays his part in it. My hat's off to the story developers who crafted such an interesting, intricate, multi-layered story and detailed fantasy world.

I forgot to say that the mini games were cool! I just think that if they are going to put them under the Twistunes section, they should could as such (like towards the weekly missions). Otherwise, there’s not much incentive to pay them once the individual missions for each of them has been fulfilled.

I think my favorite was the Hydra one Does that mean I secretly have feline instincts? LOL, that part was gold