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Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:30 am
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Hmm... Interesting. Poems, maybe, but I'd really like something that readers (the well-read ones, at least) will be able to recognize. :\ So, if they're more well-known poems, maybe.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:11 am
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This comes to mind immediately:

http://www.luminarium.org/sevenlit/donne/sonnet14.php

Very violent, lol... but not at the same time.
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Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:05 pm
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What's the premise?
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Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:11 pm
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Cliched. XD

Lol, it was one of those stories where I started writing with no ideas and came up with it as I went, so it slipped into a future world where Censors... uh... censor things. XD If they find something objectable, they completely eliminate it. And they find a lot of things objectable.

One of my characters gets stuck blacking out a line in a book, over and over and over again, so many times that she can never forget it. So I need a quote that's potentially objectable without being overly profane/graphic. Something that was written in an innocent way, but the Censors read into it too much. Possibly recognisable enough that another character will remember having read it before.
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:09 am
RachaelElg says...



How about something from centuries ago? Machiavelli?

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Machiavelli

Something from Cervantes?

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Don_Quixot ... 05-1615.29

I'm particularly fond of "marriage is a noose."

Or, what about some Alexandre Dumas?

My favorite of them all, though, would be:

"As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into an enormous insect."

by Franz Kafka (<3). The Metamorphisis

Can't have the wee citizens thinking about turning into insects, can we?

Benefit of doing that line is that a lot of people will recognize it. It's about as iconic an opening line as "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit."
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:14 am
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Hmm... Good ideas. ^^ I'll have to consider it some more.
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:25 am
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Oh, I have another one! This one would really hit the "You've got to be kidding, you're banning that?" buttons.

Brothers Grimm, yo.

The Grimm (cough, real, cough) version of Snow White ends with this beauty:

"The moment she [i.e. the queen] entered the hall she recognized Snow White, and she was so terrified that she just stood there and couldn't move. But two iron slippers had already been put into glowing coals. Someone took them out with a pair of tongs and set them down in front of her. She was forced to step into the red-hot shoes and dance till she fell to the floor dead."

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Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:31 am
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Ooooh! I hadn't even considered original fairy tales! Some can actually be pretty disturbing, yet the names and stuff would be familiar enough for a reader to catch the allusion...

I think something like that is exactly what I'm looking for! 8D

Thanks! I'll poke around and use either that quote or something similar, from some classic fairy tale like that. ^^ Gracias!
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How about something from Crash by JG Ballard? Or maybe Torture Garden by Octave Mirbeau? Naked Lunch by William Burroughs? Just a suggestion.
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Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:02 am
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Some things I can imagine being censored: Ender's Game, The Chocolate War, Catcher in the Rye, Gone with the Wind, Child 44, anything based off of gangs/drug use/teens having physical relationships (i.e. "Think of the children!") like Go Ask Alice or Crank, To Kill a Mockingbird (you got that right), The Perks of Being a Wallflower, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, 1984, Animal Farm, Gulliver's Travels (too many ideas--like the previous two), Of Mice and Men, The Bluest Eye, The Color Purple, King and King, Brave New World, Slaughterhouse-Five, and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

I'm going by 'most banned/censored' for some of them, but I can definitely see why others in a seriously uptight society would be banned. Child 44 sort of sums up a book to be banned--marriage of convenience, differing sexuality, executions, children turning on their parents, starvation, cannibalism, mental illness, mass executions, a killer of children, communism, etc. Feel free to use it as a reference point? (I only read half of it if you were curious. I'm not that morbid. Maybe.)
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Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:05 am
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Thanks, lol. ^^ That's a pretty good list of alledgedly questionable literature. XD

I don't think I'm morbid... But things I write turn out creepier than I mean them to. And I wrote some weird stuff when I was younger. XD
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Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:25 am
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You're welcome. XD Hope it'll help. (I'll also add anything by Stephen King to my list.)

Yeah, when I was eleven I wrote about a kid's mother getting her head blown off and then let my mother read it. She was not pleased. (I had no idea what was wrong with it. There was an explosion. Because clearly explosions make people's heads pop off.) I believe I have continued my trend with the Coh and Mirabella series, most of my short stories, most of my poems (one is about a wife-beater because I'm that chipper), and--HAZEverse, Lukewarm, and Mythos at times (there's a monster that steals people's hearts while they're still alive). I don't do normal or plain old funny well. Or fantasy. I created a random genre--horrific fantasy. Where there are smoke beasts and you can be possessed by demons or be executed for things you can't control.

You?

(Also, up-thread-poster and their suggestion of old fairy-tales? Lovely! I mean, Catskin, The Girl with No Hands, Godfather Death, and I can go on and on and on. -shudders- They manage to give ME the creeps. Says somethin'.)
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Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:36 am
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Yup, I think old fairy-tales are definitely a promising route to go on for this. ^^

Anyway. When I was younger I went through a telepathy/astral projection phase that was... uh... interesting. I just recently found an old short story where someone executed on the ice of an Arctic-type nation's soul or whatever split from their body (or something. I have absolutely NO memory of writing that one XD). I've crushed characters with flaming trees, murdered characters in assorted other ways... *shrug* Maybe it's not the creepiest stuff anyone's ever read, but it's creepier than I think it will be when I start out. XD
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:54 pm
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Little bit of Julius Caesar?

'Cry, "Havoc", and let slip the dogs of war'

I've never read it, but I know that quote.
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