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Until vs till?



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Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:17 am
Emerson says...



I've heard that 'until' is the proper word but in older classic books (EX: Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky) the word till (or do they spell it til?) is used. What is the difference, grammatically, and why is it that we now use until?
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:24 am
Snoink says...



Until

Till

I see "until" as a better bridge word than "till," if that makes any sense...
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:57 am
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Pushca says...



as far as teachers are concerned, tilling is what you do to a field.

i think that til isn't considered correct grammar anymore, and that until is just more modern. like sneaked and snuck. kinda.
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:22 am
Phanzanu says...



The books say that "till" can be used in two ways: as a shortened form of "until" and as the "till" when you "till the land".

I still use "til" except I put an apostrophe before it to show that I'm using "until", but I'm not sure about its proper use back then.
  





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Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:25 am
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Well... writing it as " 'til " isn't proper. The word "till" is still used rather frequently. But it also is a matter of what genre you have it in. If you have high fantasy, you can use the word since it has a more archaic sound, if that makes sense. ^_^;;
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:29 am
Phanzanu says...



Oh, it's not proper? But it's allowed, right? :(
  





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Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:44 am
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Hehe... if you submit it to the publishers and if it gets accepted, it'll probably be changed to "till" again. Or something like that. ;)
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Emerson says...



Thanks for the clearing-up :-D
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