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Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:14 am
Lumi says...



Not saying I agree with this or not, and I'm looking more into both sides of the conditions of this bill, but I figured you folks would have fun with this declaration of activism by Anonymous for November 5th, 2012. The misspellings are annoying here and there, but here it is:

Anonymous wrote:Dear brothers and sisters. Now is the time to open your eyes!

In a stunning move that has civil libertarians stuttering with disbelief, the U.S. Senate has just passed a bill that effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America.

The National Defense Authorization Act is being called the most traitorous act ever witnessed in the Senate, and the language of the bill is cleverly designed to make you think it doesn't apply to Americans, but toward the end of the bill, it essentially says it can apply to Americans "if we want it to.

Bill Summary & Status, 112th Congress (2011 -- 2012) | S.1867 | Latest Title: National Defense Authorization Act for.

This bill, passed late last night in a 93-7 vote, declares the entire USA to be a "battleground" upon which U.S. military forces can operate with impunity, overriding Posse Comitatus and granting the military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate and even assassinate U.S. citizens with impunity.

Even WIRED magazine was outraged at this bill, reporting:

Senate Wants the Military to Lock You Up Without Trial

...the detention mandate to use indefinite military detention in terrorism cases isn't limited to foreigners. It's confusing, because two different sections of the bill seem to contradict each other, but in the judgment of the University of Texas' Robert Chesney — a nonpartisan authority on military detention — "U.S. citizens are included in the grant of detention authority."

The passage of this law is nothing less than an outright declaration of WAR against the American People by the military-connected power elite. If this is signed into law, it will shred the remaining tenants of the Bill of Rights and unleash upon America a total military dictatorship, complete with secret arrests, secret prisons, unlawful interrogations, indefinite detainment without ever being charged with a crime, the torture of Americans and even the "legitimate assassination" of U.S. citizens right here on American soil!

If you have not yet woken up to the reality of the police state we've been warning you about, I hope you realize we are fast running out of time. Once this becomes law, you have no rights whatsoever in America. — no due process, no First Amendment speech rights, no right to remain silent, nothing.

The US senate does not want us to speak. I suspect even now orders are being shouted into telephones and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?

Cruelty and injustice...intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance, coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told...if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War. Terror. Disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you and in your panic, you turned to the now President in command Barack Obama. He promised you order. He promised you peace. And all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.

More than four hundred years ago, a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness. Justice, and freedom are more than words - they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest that you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek...then I ask you to stand beside one another, one year from November 5th, 2011, outside the gates of every court house of every city DEMANDING our rights!

Together we stand against the injustice of our own Government.

We are anonymous.
We are Legion.
United as ONE.
Divided by zero.
We do not forgive Censorship.
We do not forget Oppression.
US SENATE...
Expect us!


So, other than a clever paraphrase of V for Vendetta, do you take anything interesting from this declaration? Anonymous, moving from internet hacking to national activism, is taking a bold move for someone in a mask.

Do you think that American forces would legitimately take this possible law and create a militaristic society? With the current upsets during the Occupy movements, do you think people could be overreacting and assuming the worst? Or is it inevitable?

And, if this pessimistic view is accurate and true, do you think it would be irreversibly choking on America?
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Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:32 am
Kit says...



I'm against censorship, and trying to censor teh interwebz would be a huge waste of money and a huge infringement of civil liberties. Irony being the real Guy Fawkes didn't want to end oppression, he just wanted it to be Catholic instead. Australia was originally going to censor the net, wikileaks leaked the list of sites that were going to be blocked, god they were hilarious.
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Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:48 am
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There is a way for people to express their displeasure with things that are going on. It's called voting. So, why stand outside a Courthouse on Nov. 5, when you can stand in a voting booth the next day? True, you don't get Guy Fawkes masks; but you do get some cool "I voted" or "Yo Vote" stickers!
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:) Griff:
Mathew Keneally on Citizenship tests: " A test which if the terrorists fail denies them the right to vote and thus change the government through nonviolent means. F***ing genius."
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