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Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:05 pm
Snoink says...



I'm actually more like Kyllorac... if I try to live without red meat, my body kind of goes out of whack. It's weird. So, I can't do that. But, if you can, then it's cool. It's just something that I can't do.

I don't mind vegetarianism or veganism, except I tend to freak out when planning parties for them because I want to accommodate them so desperately and I forget whether eggs are off limits and on, so I freak out whether it's okay to serve pasta or not and... yeah. I over-think things a lot. XD But, I love them!

OOH! And also, the meat industry as it is now is a massive strain on the environment. It's unsustainable. I think we should at least stop producing as much meat as we do and eat vegetarian occasionally. Because vego food is delicious and you know it.


Just a quick note! Farming can strain the environment too... sometimes even worse! If this is a huge concern for you, make sure that you get sustainable foods. And, not just organic, but sustainable. There is a difference!
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Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:52 am
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I don't mind vegetarianism or veganism, except I tend to freak out when planning parties for them because I want to accommodate them so desperately and I forget whether eggs are off limits and on, so I freak out whether it's okay to serve pasta or not and... yeah. I over-think things a lot. XD But, I love them!

This. XD

I usually start out assuming the worst-case scenario -- sustainably-organic-conscious raw food vegan (or worse, a fruitarian) -- and work my way up through "Do they eat cooked foods?" to "When was the last time I saw them eat a sandwich?"

Farming can strain the environment too... sometimes even worse!

One example of this is the damage that was (and still is being) done to the Amazon Rainforest. Countless acres of forest were clear-cut for the purposes of growing crops, with more and more forest needing to be cut down each year as the soil only remains fertile for a few years at most. Even now, a lot of the current deforestation is due to growing soybeans.
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Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:40 am
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I could actually be a vegetarian (not a Vegan though) if I really wanted to. It's not that I have a problem eating animals (although I could never eat a pet; we had chickens for a while and I refused to eat them; hence the reason I could never own a farm or work in a butcher shop) but I'm not a huge fan of the taste. Everyone seems to love meat and I don't see why it's all that great. I'm always the weird one that says she doesn't like steak and everyone just stares me down, wondering what's wrong with me (I also don't like chocolate and soda pop :P).

But with that said four meats keep me from going vegitarian. Chicken, pepporni, shrimp, and balogna (I could live off balogna, yet I hate hotdogs). I don't have a problem eating other meats, but I'm not a huge fan of them and I absolutely hate pork. I hate anything American really... And I love anything related to diary (yet not milk; yes, I am extremely contradictory), so I could never be vegan.

But I don't have a problem with anyone who chooses that. I completely respect you and I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it. The bible talks about animal sacrifices and raising cattle, so I don't see how it could disapprove of eating meat, but to each their own. I think it was put on this earth for us, and if no one ate it we'd have a huge problem on our hands because everything would just repopulate really quickly.
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Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:23 am
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I think it was put on this earth for us, and if no one ate it we'd have a huge problem on our hands because everything would just repopulate really quickly.


This is actually untrue. If we stopped eating meat we'd also stop farming it, so we would not suddenly have a whole lot of animals overunning our cities or something.

There are reasons for people to eat meat, but keeping the numbers down isn't one of them.
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Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:48 am
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Pigeon3 wrote:
I think it was put on this earth for us, and if no one ate it we'd have a huge problem on our hands because everything would just repopulate really quickly.


This is actually untrue. If we stopped eating meat we'd also stop farming it, so we would not suddenly have a whole lot of animals overunning our cities or something.

There are reasons for people to eat meat, but keeping the numbers down isn't one of them.


I see. Well I guess I never thought it it that way.
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Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:41 pm
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I don't think what you meant was whether we are with or against it - because it's not exactly that point blank.

Personally, I am an omnivore - I love meat and eat it probably once a day at minimum. However, it's not like I'm against vegetarianism/veganism - frankly, I'm indifferent towards it.

I'd say about 90% of my friends are vegan or vegetarian - and I will admit that some of their food is tastey, but I wouldn't be able to live off of just that. There are two reasons for this - 1) I just really love meat and 2) If I don't eat red meat, I loose iron and get dizzy and can't walk - meat is just the easiest way to prevent this.

Often my vegan/vegetarian friends ask me how I could be so okay with eating a cute, helpless little animal.

I usually then tell them the famous words of Temple Grandin - that it doesn't matter if you eat an animal or not, just so long as you show the animal some respect before you kill it for your own gain. We're raising these animals for ourselves, raising them to be killed - the LEAST we owe them is respect and a nice life. (not her exact words, but that's the gist.)

I agree with Temple Grandin 100% on this.


Also, there is the fact that humans are built to be omnivorous - the reason why vegetarians and vegans must take supplements.

However, I do know for a fact that veganism/vegetarianism can be hard (especially to cook for O,o loll) to follow through with. I respect those of us who are vegan/vegetarian, even though I personally am not one.
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Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:14 pm
Lava says...



Snoink wrote:
I don't mind vegetarianism or veganism, except I tend to freak out when planning parties for them because I want to accommodate them so desperately and I forget whether eggs are off limits and on, so I freak out .


I have the exact opposite freaking out. We just order veg and meat pizza, and give them disposable plates, since my 'rents can be fussy about that.

But thesedays, I tend to just take everyone out to a restaurant. So much simpler. Lol.
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Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:58 pm
hopeispeace says...



Hey, just jumping in on the rant pages, don't mind me.

Personally, I'm an om[nom-nom]nivore. I believe that nature is, in a sense, "ruled" by humans, considering that we are on top of the food chain and the most influential creatures on Earth.
Besides, people need protein to function, right? I know you can get it from other places, but it's a lot easier to get from animals.
By the way, I have nothing against vegetarians. One of my friends is recent vegetarian.
I guess I'm just heartless toward critters . . . which is strange when you consider the fact that I want to be a biologist . . . But anyway, I eat plants and animals, but I refuse to eat any kind of "fast food" or highly processed food because, well, it's just not natural.
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:57 am
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I think that diets should be balanced, but it is possible to do this as a vegetarian/vegan. My dad is a vegetarian, so I am a little biased, but there is my opinion...
So I guess that I'm with it :D
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:25 am
Lapis says...



Wish soon to become vegetarian. Although my parents do not pay much heed to such preferences of mine (indeed, my father once remarked 'once you start working, you will eat a live chicken without complaint'), I intend to become vegetarian once I flee their reach. I love animals which do not hate me. When my family looks at a table, they see a beautifully prepared chicken of a delicious taste. When I observe the same scene, the image that enters my mind is a corpse mutilated beyond comprehension. I do not like meat, and the taste of raw (or whatever they call them) vegetables and fruit appeal to me much more than a once-living animal. I also hate stewed food, but even that is preferable.

About dairy products... I HATE milk. I don't like the taste of it, but I can't stand the concept. To drink a fluid which comes from the breasts of numerous cows... Intended for cows but exploited to satisfy humans... From the insides of a cow... That is sick. But cheese is a different mater. Although cheese is made of milk, I enjoy the taste, despite the fact that the concept is possibly even worse. something made from milk and bacterial... But hey, its milk, not cow insides!

Ah, anyway, I only hope that I have not offended anyone with my statements. If you like these things, I apologies. Otherwise, vegetarianism is the way to go.

P.S. On fast food... Why did humanity suddenly start consuming painted cardboard?
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