You really are going to go with that, Adam and Eve and Garden of Eden existed, you really going to try suggest this? Okay let's try clear up some facts, the Garden of Eden is yet to be found or even proven it existed outside the bible, there is no verifiable proof or historical proof it existed. There is actual documented proof for these accounts of evolution, links. The bible isn't a historical document or scientific document, everything science claims is proven with backlogs of data, and if a theory is proven false it is discarded. Thus this is why science holds religions like Christianity in less regard as the information contained in these books have proven to be false through years of research, centuries even.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:11-12)
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:20-21)
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. (Genesis 1:24-27)
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Matthew wrote:"...for we were born only yesterday and know nothing, and our days on earth are but a shadow." Job 8:9Though it is good to be concerned about the truth, I have learned that as a Christian being involved in debates like this only end up in dead results. People usually come away no more convinced of other parties theories than their own. To me, what matters is now and what you do with your life now. Worrying about the past only brings doubt and fear for the future, and what it holds. And usually the fear of the future springs from the thought of death, because, in reality, our days on earth are but a shadow.As a Christian I have faith, and faith is no blind assumption, faith is being sure of the hope I hold for the things unseen. While the earth debates about the beginning of itself, many lives are going unchanged and many hearts unattended, brokenhearted. Though the world, theories, man's decisions and thoughts, and the very earth itself changes, Jesus Christ does not. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and He offers a life that lives with purpose. Not to bicker about how things came about, but to concentrate on changing lives through Christ's love. That is what Jesus is about, and that is why the present is so important, because no one knows how long they've got before it's all over. In the end, constantly being worried and concerned with something that not everyone is fully convinced of (meaning the how man came about) comes to nothing when you die. What matters is the people you affect what you leave on this earth: a life going for God that changes lives, or a life going for yourself and being ever worried. I understand this may be out of context but it I felt I needed to input this.
inkwell wrote: We're not "worrying" or "bickering" about the past. .
that every ludicrous opinion they have deserves to be respected, and left without criticism?
atheism and evolutionism
XxMattxX wrote:that every ludicrous opinion they have deserves to be respected, and left without criticism?Because personally attacking a person due to a lack of respect for their opinions exposes an ugly hypocrisy in the perpetrator, and makes for a very ugly and pointless debate.To debate with skill is to maintain respectful composure while stating your point, and not stooping so low as to insult someone for stating theirs.If not, it's just childish bickering.Criticizing is one thing, but I was raised to believe that respect for one's right to a 'ludicrous opinion' was non-negotiable. Having observed you many a time, inkwell, you seem like you would appreciate that the most.
Snoink wrote:Ugh. You're all over reacting. Cool down, guys, and get back to subject. How did humanity get started? I assuming that this is humanity, and not just humans. I do think evolution is the most valid theory so far as to how humans came to exist in our physical state, but I believe that it is God that has given us our humanity. And, since the question is "humanity's beginning" as opposed to "how humans began" I am assuming that this discussion revolves around the more spiritual side of humans, rather than the physical origin of humans, or the origin of consciousness as it's sometimes called.What does everyone else think?
How did Homo sapiens come to be?
inkwell wrote:Bollocks. First I never insulted the guy. Secondly, of course he has a right to silly opinions. I'm not going to punish him for his opinions. Don't twist the situation.
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