BenFranks wrote:Just throwing in a thought:What about those who are wrongly convicted? They will face the death penalty and have no chance to proove otherwise. Take the Yorkshire Ripper for example, in the UK, he was recently allowed to appeal against his life sentence - I mean, fair enough, he failed and is still found guilty, thus still serving life - but what if he had prooved he was in fact innocent? I haven't particularly researched this topic, being from a Western European country where the death penalty is irrelevant, but I know that I would be firmly against the use of the death penalty. It is old fashioned, costly and has no place in a society of progress and influence. Have we given up trying to change our societies and people for the better? Why should we simply resorty to death?
Aurora, you seem to be changing how you describe prison to suit your purpose. In the course of a single post you go from calling prison "a life of free housing, free meals, and free (sometimes) education" to describing it as slow torture that will likely lead the prisoner to kill themself. You can't simultaneously argue that prison is a soft way out for murderers, and also a fate as bad or worse than death.
By accepting the rights the government protects, you consent to the punishments set down by the same government. If in your state that includes the death penalty, then by accepting the rights granted by your state, you accept its existence as well. You also have the right (instated before you were born) to disagree with particulars of these laws and lobby for them to be changed.
I asked people who straight oppose the death penalty to describe what they would put in it's place: Put criminals who would otherwise be given a death sentence in "death row" conditions? Put them in "regular" prisons? What?
Under this system, would the criminal have the right to appeal to die if they decided later it was preferable? And wouldn't this be considered assisted suicide (which is also considered murder in some states)?
AuroraOrodel wrote:This is exactly my point!!! What we have now, the values we've set up are not constant! Things only have value because we give them that value. Our rights are only our rights because we say they are, not because of some universal rule that grants them to us. That's where the power of rights and laws comes from: people. Irrational, prejudicial, cruel, and wonderful people!
Kamas wrote:What are your thoughts on capital punishment throughout the world?
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