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Incandescence
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: What is Dramatic Poetry? |
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Poetry is not a turning loose of emotion, but an escape from emotion; it is not the expression of personality, but an escape from personality. But, of course, only those who have personality and emotions know what it means to want to escape from these things. ~T.S. Eliot, Tradition and the Individual Talent, 1919
I've seen an increasing number of poems which cling solely to emotions, what I call "all-emotions" poems; or perhaps of late I've become more sensitive to them. Either way, this is not the proper section for them. Let me explain.
Feelings are generated by thoughts and events. Two lovers have a fight: feelings. A person visits a childhood home: feelings. The car won't start and one is late to work: feelings. One receives a gift that suggests insensitivity on the part of the giver: feelings. One is standing at a fork in the road in an autumn wood, trying to decide which way to go: feelings.
The all-feelings poem wallows, which is intuitively contradictory to what a "dramatic" experience is. Yes, dramatic experiences make us feel emotions; however, these experiences are limited and fleeting. A dramatic poem must do this as well--it cannot linger on one emotion for too long for fear of cannibalizing its intent. When I look at most of the work posted here, I feel like what "dramatic" means is not fully understood.
Gone are the lovers and their quarrel. We have only the bitterness, the wounds. Gone is the childhood home. We submerge ourselves in nostalgia. Missing is the car and the deadline: we have only guilt and frustration. Unstated are gift and giver -- we focus on the resentment. Woods yield to indecision.
Now, the feelings may be presented in adroit ways, using adept metaphors and other strokes of language. This may be colorful as heck. But still, the feelings float untethered like loose balloons. Drama is the realization, the "Aha!" at the connections among and between things. A dramatic poem, then, reveals, or allows to emerge, interweaving of events and emotions. The perfect blend is what we strive and look for in a dramatic poem; anything full of events is Narrative, and emotions, Lyrical. With that said:
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Crysi
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:27 am Post subject: |
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*applauds* I think many of us were unclear on the real definitions of each category, so thanks for clearing that up.
By the way, did you get that "loose balloons" simile from the background?  |
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Wiggy
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| Nice information, Incan! I heartily agree! |
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| Hahah, was there a reference to the poem, The Road Not Taken in there? Still, that did clear things up. I'd always wondered about the exact definiton of Dramatic Poetry. |
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yoha_ahoy
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your clarification. I'm sure it will help many.  |
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Tinkerbell
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: cool, |
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| thanks, this has really helped me clear up what dramatic poetry is! |
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Jiggity
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| Could you give us an example of a great piece of dramatic poetry, Incan? A link or posting of one would be great. |
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Jiggity
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Hello? |
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nemothegecko
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: Poetry |
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Poetry is a time when you get to be yourself and let go of all you emotions.
Just like writing in a journal.
You tell all of your ideas and that's that. |
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Isis
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ journal writing and poetry are not the same thing. I think others would agree on this: poetry is an art. It is not bleeding on the page, as much as emotions are involved. It would be a shame to give people the idea that their art is worthless by implying that it is only emotion or idea. |
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Chronoli
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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sorry, still unclear
yeah im a dumb@$$ what can i do |
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Exidus28_Blades
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your point of vue...it was clarifying...
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| How in the world am I supposed to post a "constructive comment" when I need help myself? |
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Cade
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Scorpia: We're all here to help each other! If you're not sure how to write a critique or what to say in it, you can browse the forums here and see what others are doing. Also, here are some helpful links to member-written articles:
How to Write A Good Review
http://www.youngwriterssociety.com/article18792.html
What Isn't A Good Critique?
http://www.youngwriterssociety.com/article19457.html
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| A good Job! Bravo |
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